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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 7:29pm

  "Ara June 17, 2021 at 6:42pm
  ok Roaring, please except my apology to make you feel that way."
  
  Ok thanks, I think you have understood me.
  
  I didn't say anyone here is 'stupid'. I just said 'the claim that QM is 'tree-in-the-forest' theory is 'stupid', which is not the same thing as saying 'those who buy into it are stupid' as even smart pple can believe in stupid theories, like someone like thomas Aquinas beleiving that the loving God created the hell for you, before he created you. What more? Quantum founders themselves ofted described QM as 'stupid', 'dippy' or 'silly'. Tesla described such research as 'insane' etc.
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 6:44pm

  

  "Qm may be one day be the way between 'religion' and 'science'."
  
  Ara,
  
  So you think QM is science. Good! From there we can move step by step and see that just what I said follows. My conclusion is that we cannot say consciousness creats the reality we observe, or even the reality of a quantum particle. My conclusion is 'observation' cannot possibly be 'conscious registration of a quantum particle'. Why? We begine by emphasizing that QM is SCIENCE, not RELIGION or 'SPIRITUALITY'.
  
  If QM is science, we justify its claims by OBSERVATION. If science makes claims of a quantum state before observation, then to 'proof' this, we must observe the quantum state 'without observing it'. So please explain to me how this can be done!!
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  Ara June 17, 2021 at 6:42pm

  ok Roaring, please except my apology to make you feel that way.
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 6:19pm

  

  "Roaring that's funny i am not assassinating your character at all, you came across more 'frustrated' with ppl - including myself than humorous"
  
  What? I talked about buttocks bursting, male sheeps tossing you, a pipeline of beer to Bohr's home, etc! These are just jockes!! Do you think I realy meant that a pipeline taking beer to Bohr's home exits? By zeroing in on just sideway jokes and taking them seriously, as though I was actually insulting pple, it looks like character assassination!
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  Ara June 17, 2021 at 6:06pm

  if you take an image of a car and spin it infinitely - what happens to the car?
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  Ara June 17, 2021 at 6:03pm

  Roaring that's funny i am not assassinating your character at all, you came across more 'frustrated' with ppl - including myself than humorous. Between the two of us your are the scientist. I understand the concept, but to have a dissent conversation its not enough. However based on my spiritual practices, qm may be one day be the way between 'religion' and 'science'.
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 6:02pm

  

  In summary, you guys are not interested in Quantum mechanics!! It is all just about me and my character! It is like students that are only busy exermining the teachers shoes, shirt, necktie, hairstyle etc and miss the whole lesson!!
  
  Stop making my character the topic of the wall and lets talk about quatum mechanics.
  
  The question is, what does it happenen during 'observation'? Is it 'quantum Decoherence'? Those are the questions I came here to discuss, not to display how 'modest' I am!!😉
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 5:54pm

  "Those institutions are all lies created to enslave beings. They are all part of an illusion. I stand by my statement. Do me a favor though. Stop arguing with me and adding your spin. It is a waste of time."
  
  These are just bald assertions!!! No proofs, no evidences etc. Things are so just because you say so!!!
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 5:51pm

  

  "One other point. I do not want to live in your world. It no longer has anything for me but I respect your choice.
  
  You should learn to respect other peoples choice by saying your point once and leaving it there.
  
  This way, you are not making yourself look bad
  
  Your choice to have those beliefs is valid for you. I respect your decision and support.
  
  If you cannot respect and support mine, you should look into why that is. It is indicative of a major flaw in your energy or trauma that needs to be transmuted.
  
  It is not noble to feel that it is important for beings to agree. It is not important. This is a very basic premise of the law of freewill which is the most important basis of beginning ethics."
  
  MD
  
  Why do you want to silence me alone in this wall as a rule for 'respect'? Am i not allowed to post my view over and over if pple don't understand it?? Tou too claim 'all governments are puppets' or 'vaccines dot cure' etc etc over and over hundreds times!!! Why do you want to create a rule for me alone in the site!! You guys be fair!!
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  Roaring Lovely June 17, 2021 at 5:40pm

  

  "you insinuate it Roaring - that you know more, you are here to educate, etc."
  
  Ara,
  
  How do you expect someone here to post comments and blog posts without insinuating that 'he knows better' and 'he is here to educate'?? Why are you discriminating against me? If you think everyone here knows everything that you know as much as you yourself knows, then why do you post anything here at all? Don't judge me for doing what everyone here is doing. Be fair!