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Ascension???? sure are you that it's better??....If it's a scam????

Posted by jose' on August 8, 2014 at 9:48am in Spirituality In General

Ascension???? sure are you that it's better??....If it's a scam????

It is better to prepare ourselves to a big disappointment

for over 2000 years we are deceived cheated derided

delude themselves that now go better it's just pure illusion .....

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niki wonoto August 19, 2014 at 9:38pm

I'm from Indonesia.

is this all Ascension, E.T Disclosure, starseeds, indigo, Ashtar, Pleidians etc stuff really real? or nonsense/BS only?
or just merely another human's vivid fantasy/imagination/beautiful wishful thinking, but that are NOT based in everyday's real reality??

honestly, this is why I seriously turned into a skeptic. there are too much of irresponsible mere hopeful fantasy stories/theories here in this forum that are NOT based in everyday's real reality..!
very typical of human beings...!

where is the hard, real, & undeniable PROOF ?

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- Phylos > niki wonoto August 20, 2014 at 9:41pm
  
  Yeah, I think they are real. I have had a few personal experiences that I regard as 'gifts' that have given me cause to embrace the possibility of their 'reality'. They are civilizations that are based upon and centered in higher dimensions. I 'saw' a huge mothership of a 'lightship' hovering off of the south by southeast next to Mt. Shasta once in 2002. I didn't realize it at first, but I wasn't really awake in my body at the time. It was a lucid out-of-body experience, even though it was as real as any waking moment in physicality. I think the intelligence within that 'lightship' brought me to that vision and it was really wonderful to behold. I am grateful. I think they wanted me to see them and knew that I wouldn't be harmed, frightened, or damaged in any way. Quite the opposite. If you have a desire for such an experience, may it become yours in a perfect and timely fashion.
  - niki wonoto > Phylos August 21, 2014 at 1:50pm
    
    @Phylos : 1) what did you *do* , specifically in details , that you finally be able to got all those -allegedly- "out-of-this-real-world" & 'magical' experiences ?
    
    2) again, how do you really truly know that what you've experienced were really truly *real* ? and not just hallucination / imagination / your own brain making-up what you want/wish to see ?
    
    thx
- jose' > niki wonoto August 20, 2014 at 11:05am
  
  there are too much of irresponsible mere hopeful fantasy stories/theories here in this forum
  
  It's just your opinion, depends on what you understand you when you read,
  
  the same words for other mean more.
  
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  However this forum is not a MEDICINE required!!!!
jose' August 19, 2014 at 12:17pm

also here we have observed that the flights are reduced, when I asked

workers of the AVIANO air base because they fell me han replied: to SAVE! and now they are laying off many of those working underground to maintenance if they are older retired us

If they are young are fired: to save ....
Acute Observer August 19, 2014 at 10:00am

I give up. You go ahead and be sick from your imaginary diseases caused by imaginary pollution and I'll just go ahead and LIVE instead. ;)

Knowledge will save me while placebo will destroy you.. ;)
- Stick > Acute Observer August 19, 2014 at 11:10am
  
  & there it is... the sentence that has sustained the Archontic phenomenon of craving since the ancient world: "I give up" ;-) Do as thou wilt, Acute... just ask yourself this: Is living without FULL FREEDOM from the remaining shadows of duality, & ongoing, parasitic agendas that don't serve ALL of Humanity, really LIVING??? Not from where I stand, my friend. 'Never Give In', Ashtar Massive!... EVER!!!
  
  ( ( ( FreedomCalling247 ) ) )
  - Acute Observer > Stick August 19, 2014 at 5:16pm
    
    The only thing that limits my freedom of today is my doubt in myself.
    - Sky > Acute Observer August 19, 2014 at 5:55pm
      
      ....Yep....Mr Acute.....<3 ......:)......xx........
      - jose' > Sky August 19, 2014 at 7:14pm
        
        Reply by Sky 1 hour ago ....Yep....Mr Acute.....<3 :="" xx=""
        
        but Sky ... ...... If I love you and forever!!!!!
        
        Sky .......

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