Posted by beth on April 30, 2013 
Congresswoman Kilpatrick

Nick Pope MOD UK December 1980 The Rendlesham Forrest Incident or the Bent Water Incident USAF Base in UK Lt Col Charles Holt

Dec 26 1980 John Burroughs Jim Penniston sent to investigate an aircraft crash - was indeed an extraterrestrial craft which left indentations on the ground and scorch marks. The craft was tracked on radar. Next night it fired light beams at men on the ground and at nuclear storage underground. Nick Pope did a cold case review. Investigations by the UK were inconclusive, the US removed some evidence without informing the British government. MOD shows UK authorities were not happy with the evidence being removed. Contradiction, poor information sharing and delay made the original reports inconclusive. The assessment of 5 star Admiral commented: my position is there are only two possibilities - intrusion of our air space by ET vehicle or All the USAF personal are lying or delusional.

Patrick Franscogna - Legal Counsel to Burroughs and Penniston

33 years ago they were assigned to RAF Bent Waters which were leased to USAF They were security for war making assets at the Base. Saw strange lights in Rendlesham Forest. The thought it was a downed craft. The lights had landed in the forest. An object had been seen over radar over the forest. Upon arriving at the crash site they saw a blinding flash of light and they dropped to the ground. They saw a triangular craft at rest in the forest. The air was electrically charged. After 10 minutes with no aggression they concluded they were safe and he commenced an on site inspection including photographs and notebook entries. There were hieroglyphs etched into the skin of the craft. The craft then began to brighten - the craft became airborne and ascended skyward and streaked away at an impossible rate of speed. The information acquired was shared and they were to treat the information as top secret. All photos which were turned into the lab were over exposed and rendered useless. They were given narcotics before being interrogated by their supervisors. The Halt Memo said he believed the objects were under intelligent control. The men suffered ailments after being exposed to the craft and persist today. In December 1980 I was completely unaware of the incident - became aware of incident in 2000. It has been cowardly how their requests have been rejected.

Penniston

Burroughs The human toll which takes place with those involved in UFO incidents. Our incident is still classified 32 years later.

Congressman Bartlett Were there other witnesses? There were 40 to 60 people who also witnessed this. Were there others near the craft with you two? Penniston: Security forces working on Bent Waters - about 13 of them saw the craft land. On Rendelsham security saw the light in the woods. Everybody working on both Bases that night saw it take off. When it landed did they think it was one of our craft? Penniston: We were trained in siloutes of Craft - but this craft was void of crew compartment, did not have exhaust, intake, a "front" - felt there was no way it could fly. Burroughs: Radar contacted and notified us that there was something in the forest. The decision was made by a shift commander to let us go out into the forest and local authorities were notified as well. This was picked up on radar. Penniston: I paced it off as 9 feet by 9 feet by 9 feet and 6-7 feet tall. It seemed too small to be piloted. Was there an investigation of the landing site - the Security Forces did an investigation the next morning, less than a week later a Team from Langley and courded off the area - they were there a few days then packed up and left. Nick Pope: The British governments file has been declassified. There were radiation readings taken at the landing site. How do they explain this incident away? Burroughs: Fooled by stars, planets or the local lighthouse. How do they explain away the radar records? They just play it down.

Nick Pope: In my experience at MOD the incident they say anomalous returns can come from meteorological events and radar is not an exact science. UK was very much based on US Project Blue Book and often the conclusion was we do not believe these things to be of defense interest.

Does it not become obligatory at some point with all these incidents to acknowledge something is there. Nick Pope: I agree (laughter) Bartlett: There is an attitude with the general public that they are too dumb to understand or must be protected.

Congresswoman Woosley What are you doing now? Penniston: We are documenting this, writing a book, the three of us Burroughs: Retired from USAF in 2006. Because of my medical conditions I am limited to what I can do. Are you getting treated by the VA for your illnesses. Penniston: They have addressed a few issues like inner ear problems. I had some problems walking 3 weeks after the incident. I was asked were you exposed to radiation recently? I had touched the craft. I had a terrible time sleeping - getting 2-3 hours/night. He told his doctors he had an incident which was classified and they refused to treat them. The doctor referred to psych and she did hypnosis. I came out of the hypnosis and her mouth was at the bottom of the table. She said tell me about Bet Water. He said I think it is classified. Burroughs: After the incident my gums turned white - after a few months on leave I became very ill and I was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Later I had vision problems. They said it was due to being exposed to radiation. A few years ago I became very ill and I had a-fib congestive heart failure. The insurance company wanted more tests to explain my condition. My heart rebounded. My heart ejection fracture was 10% - I was the walking dead. Because of all of this Mr. Franscogna inquired the military about my medical records. During the process of this investigation - we received a phone call saying my records were in the classified section. VA doctor said my records do not show you were in the military then. The doctor said there are some things we do not need to know. Why when the incident happened in UK why were the USAF the lead in the investigation? Nick Pope: Since it was considered a security issue, the NATO agreement allowed concurrent jurisdiction in a security situation.

Patrick Franscogna: I am helping these gentlemen because they are worthy. I worked for a member of the California delegation in the 1980s - the oddest thing we would have to deal with is nude sun bathers - when I approach Senator McConnellʻs office - people "get weird" around the Redlesham case. After one year nothing was done in this case. I would have been fired if I had not done something in a year.

Senator Gravel: How has this been handled? Burroughs: This is the first time we went public. When the VA was not responsive with any immediacy I am somewhat horrified at hearing your stories. The classification problem and not acknowledged you served - you had a discharge document. This is gross incompetence and negligence on the part of the government.

Penniston: I have an inner ear problem and it effects balance. They did say it was Meniereʻs disease upon discharge. Approximately two years after the incident I almost died in the hospital - got very sick - it effected my heart. I would like to have my USAF medical records for that - I was active duty then.

Burroughs: The doctor said there were no records when I was in the military so I showed her

Tell us about touching the craft

Penniston: I felt I needed to investigate so I could report back on this. Since there was no reaction I felt it was not hostile. I started to walk around the object. I saw an inscription on the front and I saw the hieroglyphs. When I went into that forest I did not believe in ETs and I still donʻt, by the way. I ran my hand over the fabric of the craft. I looked underneath it. I was wondering how it moved - there was light emenating from it - it was up about 2 feet. I pushed the craft and it was solid. It was completely silent. I touched the craft and it felt like smooth metal - I touched it with my own skin (no gloves) the craft was warm to the touch. As I walked around it I knew it was nothing we had and surely nothing the Russians had.

Congresswoman Hooley: When this aircraft landed how long did it take for the public to know it landed? Nick Pope: Some locals knew immediately. They went on record as witnesses. The Halt document was released in 1983. Local reporters aggressively asked at the time and they were told nothing happened. Were there others out there with you? Penniston: No Mam. No one else was around. Burroughs was out of it because he was enveloped by the lights. It happened to him on two separate nights. I felt I was going to die out there that night so I tried to get as much information as possible. The second night there was a small incident where there were lights - a beam of light shot through their vehicle and shut it down. On the third night he recorded what was going on - Now whatever it is is coming at us from the South and it is beaming lights down at us - Unreal? Penniston: We were about 300 feet away from the Base. Also there was the fire department who saw this on Night 1 and there were Civilian members. I was the only one who touched it - Burroughs was engulfed in a beam of light and it also happened on the third night. That is the unusual part of this. Base Commander was going to debunk it but his life changed too. There were a lot of veterans who were working that night. Some of the others have similar problems too.

Congressman Cook: The very first sighting was with Sergeant Stephens and you. Burroughs: He was senior ranking security and he stayed back for security. I believe he still is alive. What is a classified section of the VA? : the VA has a section where they maintain classified records and it is up to the Command if they will release your medical records for treatment.

Congresswoman Kilpatrick

Burroughs: This was a three night incident. Also - it happened off Base. USAF was given lead on investingating the Case. Why would they send in an investigation from Langley. Did they know something? Different things came out about what was seen. Everyone saw something different. There was static electricity in the air, their were equipment failures. None of us were debriefed. None of us had medical assessments. None of us were removed from duty. The Commander [Halt] said he felt that it was intelligently controlled. I feel if this was investigated it could be the Case which could make a difference in Disclosure.

Congressman Bartlett

Nick Pope: There were soil samples, samples from scorched trees and documentation that the General took with him when he left.

Penniston/Burroughs: It was found under hypnosis that I was taken back into OSI and that was where I was given sodium pentothol and additional discoveries were made. Why do you think there was a cover - up. This object was drawn into the area. This was a top secret facility C-3 Facility, a building there had a retinal scanner and those were civilians and just a mile or two away were MI6 - there were towers on Base that had radar too. There was the Horizon Radar. The Russians had their project. They were trying to counteract this radar technology. The NSA had a facility with Cobra Mist. They brought in Standford University to understand why it wasnʻt working properly. They found out something in the Country was causing it not to work. Then they shut it down immediately. It was strange to shut down such an expensive project. They found out Standford then never left Bent Waters. Whatever they were working on at the time, they continued going forward. They had at the time reel-to-reel and they recorded all our transmissions on the radio. These things are a smoking gun. All of the records have been taken. We were told that these things were missing - gone. We were told by the Senior Controller - Koffee- that they were removed and classified secret. After all this they decided to make cover stories. They said it was alien-ET related-UFO-"little green men" Kilpatrick: Was It? Penniston: Absolutely Not. It was a Craft of unknown origin. I have always felt it was more of a security situation. There were munitions storage, C-3 facilities and Cobra Mist and we cannot go into that here. It was my job to assess the threat to security. I must admit I knew this thing was not in the book for known aircraft and I knew it was nothing we had the capability of at the time.

Congresswoman Woosley: You mentioned sodium pentathol - when was that administered. In 1994 I went to a therapist and she put me under that. I had additional visits to her. Under hypnosis it came out about the sodium pentothal injection and I was given that was taken Feb 1 1981. They kept interrogating us like we were prisoners of war. Under hypnosis it became clear they knew things but also they were trying to get answers. DIS (Defense Intelligence Service) they were 50 miles away. It could have been NSA - State Department - who knows who was pulling the strings on this. Burroughs: The State Department - something went on. There was an International incident otherwise why would they be briefed on this if nothing of significance took place? Commander Halt was aware we were drugged and not treated properly. Col Conrad was most concerned and said Col Halt violated a code of conduct talking about classified information. Why werenʻt we briefed on what happened to us and we are still puzzled by what we were dealing with.

Senator Gravel: Were there nuclear storage facilities on the Base? Nick Pope I checked the position with the MOD press office and I was told if that question comes up the UK government position was they can neither confirm nor deny. UK Chairman of Joint Chiefs said - look this was a nuclear Base.

Burroughs: What would be classified still today? OSI blew there time limits by a year regarding our oaths. Why are they trying intimidation 32 years later? Why the interest 32 years later? Penniston: Why did they blow the FOIA request 32 years later? We are here to clear this up as best we can and get answers. It is a step in the process. If you look at the Bent Waters incident not as a UFO incident but as an incident which will cause the DOD and other Agencies grief - why is there something so classified that they wonʻt let it out? I think they donʻt want the real truth to come out - because they do not want to have the truth come out. You have to be very specific with your questions.

Senator Gravel The White House says nothing is going on so to back up the White House the entire military backs them up. Penniston: I donʻt think you folks [Congress] know about these things. I donʻt think Presidents know about these things and you guys come and go.

Congressman Cook I am going to compose a letter to Veterans Administration and President Obama to ask for something very simple here - Sgt Burroughs and Sgt Penniston medical records - if we find in them heart problems at a very yound age - I submit if we find those evidences - there is no reason to withold a medical records. I think this could be a start of taking down that brick in the process. Bent Waters are in Suffolk County. Ipswich is that close? Even those those are two RAF Bases who many Airmen are on those Bases? Nick Pope Those Bases are RAF - but in name only. If Gabriel hadnʻt been taken evidence back to Reinstein, Germany - this was under the early years of Thatcher - The Iron Lady - There was something that needed to be covered up immediately. Give us a little more detail about why so quickly? Nick Pope The MOD was upset about this - not the Minister personally. America was considered a senior partner in NATO and there was a kind of ʻdonʻt the Americans ruleʻ that was never articulated in any other manner.

Did you draw this? Penniston: Yes - I still have the notebook. This is a copy of what I drew. And you say this was on the craft? Yes. This is part of my observations and in my report. The rough drawing of the craft was done for OSI. December 29th. The glyphs they were not interested in. Nick Pope It was the potential hazard for radiation that was the interest.

Burroughs In the early 90s Col Halt released the Statements. The Memo, Tape and our Statements were then released. The Memo came out in 1983 through the FOIA was released to the public - shortly after the tape was released. In the 90s our Statements were released by Col. Halt. Within a day or two the Memo clearly showed indents in the forest where you described the craft as being. The way the story was told after he took the tape to him - The Staff reviewed the tape and said We donʻt want to touch this - this is the British problem- brief them on the issue.

Congressman Bartlett - working in 1958 at NHI - there was serious concern I would be punished for this - its not the kind of thing you did back then. You donʻt need to worry about repercussions for this because there would be hell to pay in the press if there were repercussions. It is inconceivable to me that there would be repercussions to this.

Congressman Woolsey Are we dealing with UFOs? I believe honestly it is not about secrecy it is about power. They want to use this technology for war making abilities and it is national defense. Everyone is in a race to have this technology and use it against each other.

Capt. Robert Salas On duty inside a launch control center. Control over 10 nuclear missiles - all operate independently with their own control. here was no means to effect them outside their capsule. FSC called to report unidentified objects of light abocve the facitolity doing odd maneuvers doing things our aircraft cannot do. I basically hung up on them. There was a large oval shape object hovering overhead. It was difficult to distinguish a shape except it was glowing red. Their weapons were drawn - several men - they wanted to know what to do next. Our primary duty was to secure the missiles. Our missiles began to shut down. We lost all power when this vehicle was above the facitilty. BURSA Voice activated facility - there were security violations in all ten missiles. The FSC reported the object had flown off. They reported to seeing the object over the site. It happened at another flight - the Echo Flt incident about a week earlier.

Col Walter Figel at Echo Flt

Recording of a telephone conversation where he described on two of his launch facilities where he had security in their silos they reported they had a UFO and they lost all their missiles. The missiles - all ten - shut down. This happened in 1967. Signed non-disclosure statement about what they have seen.

The coupler is attached to the missile guidance system. In the opinion of the team the signals caused all ten couplers to fail and - the signals sent from the Object flying over the site. This kind of event is virtually impossible. Boeing Company was the manufacturer of the missiles. We did not have the capability in a machine to do this - then or now. I have concluded these objects were non terrestrial in origin. In 1966 U of Colorado was awarded a million dollar grant for the study of UFOs. USAF Officers gave reports of Air Force events. With respect to Echo Oscar flight evidence was kept from the accounting committee. I asked him about the Echo Incident I cant talk about that he said Col Chase said it did not involve a UFO I turned that over to Bob Lowe When he reviewed the report he said it was too high a classified event to review. He did not interview either of the Echo Crews. Project Blue Book was intentionally misinformed about these incidents. There were equipment malfunctions and abnormalities. Air Force purposely denied the UFO shut down incidence. An official rejection of the phenomena. In light of my own experience the USAF is engaged in lying and hiding information from the public on UFOs.

Capt David Schindele, USAF ret. Minot Air Force Base - ND I was told to never speak about this again. I was to a launch control officer. My launch Commander was a Captain. I held a top secret clearance which was required for my job. One morning the local news announcer in Mohall ND saw lights overhead and it was attributed to ND

The missile sight had gone on alert. when the briefing was over several of the launch crews commented on the news and its possible connection to November Flight. The usual way was to inspect the sight from the perimeter road. There was an object there the night before the object was est at 80 to 100 feet wide. He said it hovered and made no sound - it was not like anything he had ever seen. The object while hovering ovber the ground went toward the north side of the building and disappeared. The object was just above the nuclear capsule underground. This capsule was under the garage. This was the launch control center for all ten missiles. My Commander and I went down to the launch control center - in the capsule the launch control center the controls showed all ten missiles were off line and not launchable. We speculated about an EMF pulse that may have sent them offline. The object whicvh had paid a visit had tampered with and made unlaunchable the ten nuclear missiles. Everyone had been told to never to discuss the incident. He had received the orders from OSI. With no discussion between him and me or anyone else me and my crew were left without direction. This serious lack of follow through by the USAF was more than bewildering. Normally we would have training on what to do. I will nbever forget the look on the faces of my crew when we were briefed. Maintenace people had to retarget the missiles and there were more guards needed. Everyone had been silenced. After years of searching the internet I looked for someone who knew something about this. Two of my crew have gone public with the incidence and have pleaded I not reveal their names they fear ridicule and losing their USAF pensions. Late Capt Val Smith He was interviewed by Alan Hynak posted Dec 1966 - event which happened Aug 1966 This incident was not picked up by the press. In 1966 when I was in Minot the evidence was everywhere something was happening. The USAF knew the truth.

Tech Sgt David Scott USAF Police, ret Secret Security clearance strategic air command Minot ND We were dispatched from Alpha One to one of our missile sites - probably another Jack Rabbitt we thought. It was the size of a star but was pulsing red. We parked off site to wait the order to leave the area - Was pulsing red-blue-yellow and our car went dead. We sat there45 minutes protecting our missile sight. The Object then pulsed white three times and our car came back on - all alarms had reset properly and we were then called back on the radio. We reported to Sgt Hicks that we saw a light - then he hit us with a bombshell All alrams in our wing had alarmed simultaneously and all car security went dead for 45 minutes and they all saw the light in the sky. The official UFO position is that UFOs exist - why bother with a report unless you want to get laughed out of service. I heard a radio show from Winnipeg - fighters had responded to the UFO that had been over our missile sight - when it disappeared the Canadians picked up on it. This information was released in 1975.

Capt Fenstermacher 1974-1977 AFB I was and still remain a skeptic. My deputy and I were on duty at the LCF. The SAT team was doing their checks at 2am they called SAT and said get out of your vehicle and see what you see. They said we see something in the distance. A Bright White Pulsating Light - and other colors pulsating. It looks near the LCF where you are. Then they asked them to return. We called them and asked what was going on . They said there was a white/red/blue object pulsating light it was 40-50 feet long it was about 80 feet high in the sky - it was moving down the access road to the East and was closest to the launch facility. They returned to the LCF and were just about ready to go. The object moved above another LCF They said they needed to gas up their truck. They started taking personal notes of what transpired. The Crew from Quebec called and said earlier that morning they had a similar object above their launch facilities. The SAT team had an accident leaving the LCF and the Quebec team seemed to find that humerus which was important for what happened later. I told them if they did not take this seriously I would call the Base Commander (it was 3am and he would not like that) At 4am in moved away very rapidly to a star shape object then disappeared. None of our missiles had gone offline. In the morning we were relieved by the day crew. Beam of light was extending down to the launched facility. The SAT team from that night - they reached into the beam and that spooked them - they raced away and then had an accident.
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