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                                                                                 HELL

 

Q- The Hell of fire and flame of which the Catholic religion speaks to us, in the present times we can no longer admit it as anything more than a religious superstition, according to the men of science. Is this true, Master?

 

Distinguished gentleman, allow me to inform you that any hell of a religious type is exclusively symbolic.

 

It does not hurt in these instants to remember the "Hell of Ice" of the Nordics, the Chinese Hell with all its yellow torments, the Buddhist Hell, the Mohammedan Hell or the "Infernal Island" of the ancient inhabitants of the Country of Maralpleicie, whose civilization today is already hidden among the sands of the Gobi desert...

 

Unquestionably, these varied traditional Hells allegorize, emphatically, the Submerged Mineral Kingdom.

 

Remember, good friend, that Dante found his "Infernus" among the living entrails of the Earth. Read "The Divine Comedy ".

 

Q- Master, you speak to us of the "Submerged Mineral World", however, all the drilling of the mining, oil and other companies that have been practiced on the terrestrial crust, have not shown signs of a living world that could be even in the first inner layer of the Earth. Where is this Submerged Mineral World?

 

A- Great friend, let me inform you that Euclid's Three-dimensional World is not everything.

 

Ostensibly, above this world of three dimensions (long, wide and high), there are several higher dimensions. Obviously, according to the Law of Contrasts, under this Three-dimensional Zone, there are also several Sub-dimensions of submerged mineral type.

 

It is indubitable that the aforementioned Dantesque-type Hells correspond to these Infra-dimensions.

 

Q- Excuse me Master to insists, but in all the books that I have scrutinized because of my restlessness, I do not remember any writing or document that not only does not speak to us about these infra-dimensions, but at least tells us how they can be discovered, therefore, I ask that what is the object of speaking of Infra-dimensions, that as far as I have been able to verify, no human being has seen or felt?

 

A- Distinguished gentleman, your question seems interesting to me; however it is worth clarifying that the International Gnostic Movement has systems, methods of direct experimentation, through which we can verify the harsh reality of the Infra-dimensions of Nature and the Cosmos.

 

We can and should locate the Nine Dantesque Circles, precisely, under the epidermis of the Earth, within the interior of the planetary organism in which we live.

 

Obviously, the nine circles mentioned correspond, intelligently, with nine infra-dimension  naturals.

 

It is evident and clear that the "Nine Heavens" of Dante's "Divine Comedy" are Nine Dimensions of Superior type, closely correlated with the Nine of the Lower type.

 

Anyone who has ever studied "The Divine Comedy" from the esoteric point of view, cannot ignore the reality of the infernal worlds...

 

Q- Master, what is the basic difference between the Hells of Catholicism for example and those considered by the Gnostic Movement?

 

A- Good friend, the difference between the symbolic Hells of one and another religion, is what may be between flag and flag of different nations. Each country allegorizes its existence with a national flag; likewise, each religion symbolizes the infernal worlds with some allegory of infernal type.

 

But Christian Hells, or Chinese, or Buddhists, etc., etc., all of them, at bottom, are but different emblems that correspond to the crude realism of the Atomic Hells of Nature and the Cosmos.

 

Q- Why do people have "nightmares" as we say vulgarly? What happens in this case, is it that you travel to those infra-dimensional worlds?

 

A- With the greatest pleasure I will answer this interesting question from the audience ... I want, ladies and gentlemen, that you understand what "nightmares" are certainly.

 

The Hidden Anatomy teaches that in the lower abdomen there are seven Infernal Gates, seven Inhuman Chakras or Negative Vortexes of sinister forces.

It may be the case that someone, indigestated by some heavy food, puts into activity by means of disorder, such Infernal Chakras. Then the Abysmal Gates are opened, as the religion of Muhammad clearly teaches, and the subject penetrates that night into the Hell Worlds.

 

This is possible through the unfolding of the Personality. It is not difficult for the Ego to penetrate the "Abode of Pluto".

 

The monsters of nightmares really exist, they originally come from the archaic times; they normally inhabit the Sub-dimensions of the Submerged Mineral World.

 

Q- Does this mean, Venerable Master, that not only those who die without having "saved their Soul" enter Hell?

 

A- It is clear, clear and manifest, that the living also penetrate into the infernal worlds, as nightmares are demonstrating. Ostensibly, the human Infra-conscious is infernal in nature; it could be said, with total meridian clarity, that in the Atomic Infernos of man there are all the abysmal horrors. In other words, we emphasize the following: Infernal Abysses are in no way divorced from our own Subconscious and Infra-conscious.

 

Now will understand the audience, the reason why it is so easy to penetrate, at any time, within the Nine Dantesque Circles.

 

Q- Dear Master, I really do not understand why you first tells us that the infernal worlds are in the infra-dimensions of the earth, and then you mentions that those atomic abysses are within oneself. Would I be so kind as to clarify this?

 

A- Your question seems magnificent to me. Whoever wants to discover the Laws of Nature, must find them within himself. Who within himself does not find what he seeks, he will never find it outside himself. The ancients said: "Man, know yourself and you will know the Universe and the Gods." Everything that exists in Nature and in the Cosmos, we must find within ourselves. Thus, the Nine Infernal Dantesque Circles are within ourselves, here and now.

 

Q- Master, I have had nightmares where I have seen a world of darkness and many monsters, will it be that I have entered into those Infra-dimensional or Hell Worlds?

 

R- Your question is quite important. It is necessary for the audience to understand that these infra-dimensions are in the submerged depths of our nature. Obviously, I repeat, with the nightmares, the Seven Gates of the Atomic Hells of the lower abdomen open, and then we descend to the Submerged Worlds...

 

Rare are the people who in their lives have not made any visit to the "Kingdom of Pluto". However, it is good, ladies and gentlemen, that in studying this question, let us think of the crude natural realism of those Worlds that are placed in the Underground dimensions of the planet in which we live. Let us think for a moment about Worlds that penetrate and interpenetrate each other without getting confused, in densely populated regions, etc., etc.

 

In no way should we take the religious allegories to the "dead letter"; let's look for "the Spirit that vivifies and that gives life". The different Hells of religions allegorize crudely natural realities; we should not confuse the symbols with the Cosmic Phenomena in themselves.

 

Q- Master, I would like you to explain to me a little more about those infernal worlds, since within those nightmares that I have had, I have never seen light or beautiful faces. Could you tell me why?

 

A- With the greatest pleasure I will answer that question. The Infernal Darkness is another mode of Light; they certainly correspond to the infrared range.

 

The inhabitants of such underground domains perceive the different variants of color, corresponding to that area of the solar spectrum.

 

I want you, my friends, to understand that all the colors that exist in the ultraviolet are also in the infrared.

 

That there is a yellow of the ultraviolet, that is something very remarkable, but in the infrared the yellow also exists, in a different way. And so it also happens with the other colors. So, I emphatically repeat the following: The Darkness is another mode of Light.

 

Unquestionably, the inhabitants of the Submerged Mineral Kingdom are too far away from the "Sacred Absolute Sun", and therefore they are, indeed, terribly evil and frightfully ugly.

 

Q- I conceive, Master, that in the submerged worlds of the Earth there are all kinds of monsters, and that they inhabit there; but how is it possible that within myself, that I am so small compared to the planet, I can find precisely those worlds?

 

A- Good friend, let me tell you that any molecule of starch or iron, copper, etc., etc., is a whole miniature Solar System. A disciple of Marconi, he imagined precisely our Solar System as a great cosmic molecule.

 

Whoever does not discover in a simple molecule the movement of the planets around the Sun is certainly very far from understanding Astronomy.

 

Nothing is detached in this Universe, in truth, there is no effect without cause, or cause without effect. So also, within each of us there are forces and atoms that correlate, either with the Celestial Spheres, or with the Infernal Spheres.

 

It is good to know that in our organism there are Psychic Centers that put us in relation with the Nine Superior Dimensions of the Cosmos, or with the Nine Lower Dimensions.

 

I already said clearly, that this Three-dimensional World in which we live is not everything, because above we have the Superior Dimensions, and below the Inferiors.

 

Unquestionably, all these Celestial or Infernal Dimensions are related to the different areas of our own Psyche, and that is why if we do not discover them within ourselves, we will not discover them anywhere.

 

Q- Master, you often mention the word "Atomic Abyss". Why Atomic?

 

A- This question seems extraordinary and with great pleasure I will give an answer. First of all, I want you to know that every atom is a trio of Matter, Energy and Consciousness.

 

Let us think for a moment about the "Atomic Intelligences"; obviously, there are Solar and Lunars; there are also "Atomic Malignant Intelligences", terribly perverse.

 

The atoms of the "Secret Enemy" within our organism are controlled by a certain malignant atom, located exactly in the coccygeal bone.

 

This type of atoms cause diseases and originate in us different manifestations of perversity.

 

Let's expand this information a little more and think, for a moment, about all the malignant atoms of planet Earth. Obviously, the heaviest, the most demonic, inhabit the "Abode of Pluto", that is, in the infra-dimensions of the world in which we live. Now you will understand the reason why we speak of "Atomic Abysses", of "Atomic Hells", etc.

 

Q- I think most of us all, when we think in terms of "atom", we imagine something infinitely small. Then, when we are told that all the suns and planets of the cosmos constitute an atom, it upsets our reasoning process a bit. Is this congruent, Master?

 

R- Distinguished gentleman and friend, it has never occurred to me to think about reducing the whole Universe, or the Universes, to a simple atom. Let me tell you that worlds, suns, satellites, etc., are constituted by sums of atoms, and this is different, right? If somewhere in my oratory I compared the Solar System with a large molecule, I did it based on the Law of Philosophical Analogies; I never wanted to reduce such a System to a simple atom.

 

 

                                                                                       II

                                 THE THREE ASPECTS OF THE INTERIOR OF THE EARTH

 Q-Master, from what you have explained above, should we understand that under the inner layers of the Earth, there are only Infra dimensions, since the Supra-dimensions, which correspond to the Heavens, are only found above the Earth's layer?

 

A- Distinguished sir, your question seems interesting to me, and I hasten to answer you.

 

It is good that all of you understand that this planetary organism in which we live has three clearly defined aspects in its interior:

 

1º- Mineral Region (purely physical).

 

2º- Supra-dimensional Zone.

 

3º- Infra-dimensional Zone.

 

Q- Accepting that in the interior of the Earth there were these three aspects of which you speaks us(and in my case I accept it hypothetically, I clarify), we would have to reach the conclusion that the Nine Celestial Spheres coexist with the Infernos, which correspond to the Infra-dimensions. Is it congruent that the Heavens are in the same location as the Hells?

 

A- Dear gentleman, it is urgent to comprehend, in an integral way, that everything in Nature and the Cosmos is summarized as additions and subtractions of dimensions, which penetrate and interpenetrate each other without getting confused.

 

There is a hermetic postulate that says: "As it is above, it is below". Apply this postulate to the subject in question.

 

It is ostensible that the Nine Heavens have within their planetary organism, their correlations according to the Law of Correspondences and Analogies.

 

These Nine Heavens, within the interior of the planetary organism in which we live, correlate intelligently with the Nine Deep Zones of planet Earth.

 

But I have not yet fully explained the question; what really happens is that these Nine Heavens have a Center of Atomic Gravitation, located exactly in the center of the planet Earth.

 

In another way I want to tell you, and tell all of you, ladies and gentlemen, that the Nine Heavens gravitate in the Central Atom of planet Earth, extending far beyond the entire Solar System. This same process is repeated with each of the planets of the "Solar System of Ors".

 

Q- This exhibition, Venerable Master, seems very beautiful to me and fits perfectly into the gaps of my understanding; but I must say that according to the precepts of logic, it cannot be clearly demonstrate the explanation you have given us. Therefore, how can we get to verify your claim in this regard?

 

A- Dear gentleman, your question is worrisome. Unquestionably, formal logic leads us to error. It is not by such logic that we can arrive at the experience of the Real; We need a Superior Logic, which fortunately exists. Already Ouspensky wrote the "Tertium Organum", the "Third Canon of Thought." It is ostensible that there is a sense of unity in the Mystic Experience of many transcended subjects. Such Men, through the development of certain Cognitive Faculties, have been able to verify for themselves and directly, the reality of the Hell Worlds, inside this planet in which we live.

 

The interesting thing about all this, is that the data enunciated by some and other Adepts, are similar, in spite of dwelling such men in different places of the Earth.

 

Q- Does it mean, then, Master, that only a certain number of Adepts (who have had the luck to have these Cognitive Powers) can check the infra-dimensions and the supra-dimensions of the planets and the Cosmos, to the like the  of man himself?

 

A- In the field of Direct Experimentation, in the field of practical Metaphysics, there is a diversity of subjects with more or less developed Psychic Faculties.

 

It is obvious that there are disciples and Masters. The former can give us more or less incipient information; the second, the Adepts or Masters, have immeasurably superior Faculties, those that enable them to conduct  in-depth investigations, which allows them to speak in a clearer, more precise, and more detailed manner.

 

Q- If you, Master, have taught us to corroborate from our own experience what the Adepts and Illuminated affirm, is there then the possibility that we, the common ones, can verify by our own experience the reality of the infernal worlds, outside of the experiences of a simple nightmare, caused by stomach indigestion?

 

A- Dear sir, it is obvious that Direct Experimentation in the field of Metaphysics is only available to subjects who have developed the Faculties latent in man. But I want to tell you, with complete clarity, that every person can experience, briefly, the crude realism of such Atomic Hells when he falls into those disgusting nightmares.

 

Undoubtedly, I do not mean by this that the aforementioned nightmares allow the complete verification of the crude realism of Nature's under dimensions.

 

Whoever really wants to experience that which is below the Three-dimensional World of Euclid, must develop certain very special faculties and Psychic Powers.

 

Q- Is it possible that all of us can develop these faculties?

 

A- Distinguished gentleman, I want to inform you that the International Gnostic Movement possesses methods and systems, through which every human being can develop, in a conscious and positive way, his Psychic Powers.

 Q-Master, could you tell us what we should understand about the fact that the Devil inhabits Hells that have flames of fire and a tremendous smell of sulfur, where beings who in this life have behaved badly are punished?

 

R- I'm going to answer the gentleman's question...

 

Unquestionably, in the Submerged Regions of the Mineral Kingdom, under the very epidermis of planet Earth, there are different zones. Let us remember for a moment the Igneous Zone: It is ostensible that it is demonstrated with the eruption of the volcanoes. Let's cite the Water Zone: No one could deny that there is water inside this planetary organism. Let's think for a moment about the Air Element: Although it seems incredible, inside our planet Earth there are also air currents, special zones. It has even been said, with complete meridian clarity, that there exists in the interior of this world, a vast region completely hollow, aerial, we would say. In no way could we deny the realism of stones, sands, rocks, metals, etc., etc., etc.

 

When thinking about the concept of "demon" or "demons", let us also reconsider in Lost Souls; is this really interesting.

 

Many inhabitants of the Hell Worlds dwell in the Fire Region, but others live in the Air Regions, and lastly they inhabit the Aquatic Regions and the Mineral Areas.

 

It is obvious that the inhabitants of the terrestrial interior are very related to the sulfur, since this is an integral part of the volcanoes; However, it is clear that specifically, only the "Dwellers of Fire" could be so associated with sulfur. I want therefore, distinguished gentleman, honorable public, respectable gentlemen and ladies, that you understand the Hell or "Infernus" in the crudely natural way, without artifice of any kind.

 

Q- Could you tell me Master, why being the region of the lower abdomen that of the infernal worlds, located in the region of the "Silver Cord"? Does this mean that said "cord" communicates constantly with our infernal worlds?

 

A- Honorable sir, I want to respond to you with perfect clarity. Much has been said about the "Silver Cord"; It is indubitable that all Soul is connected to the Physical Body by means of that "Magnetic Thread". We have been told that one branch of that "Cord" or "Thread of Life" is related to the heart, and another to the brain.

 

Several authors emphasize the idea that seven of these branches derived from the "Silver Cord" are connected with seven specific Centers of the human organism.

 

In any case, that "Thread of Life ", that "Cord" of which you speak to us, the very basis of your question, is in no way connected to the "Seven Chakras" of the lower abdomen. It is interesting to know that during the hours of sleep, the Essence , the Soul, escapes from the Physical Body to travel to different places on Earth or the Cosmos; then the "Magnetic thread" of our existence is released, infinitely lengthened, then attracting the Physical Body to awaken in the bed.

 Q-Master, could you expand on what you just said, with regard to the fact that the "Seven Chakras" are in the lower abdomen? Since we have been told in other conferences and in their own books, that the "Seven Chakras" are distributed in different parts of our body.

 

A- Honorable gentleman, I have heard your question and I hasten to respond with the greatest pleasure.

 

I see that you, sir, have confused the "Seven Chakras" of the lower abdomen with the "Seven Churches" of the Apocalypse of Saint John, located in the Spine.

 

Undoubtedly, nowhere in the talk that we are developing tonight I have made any reference to such "Magnetic Centers" or "Vortexes of Force", located in the "Brahma Staff" or Spinal Cord. .

 

We have only mentioned to the "Seven Gates of Hell" of which the religion of Muhammad speaks, to Seven Specific Centers or "Chakras" located in the lower abdomen and related to the Hell Worlds; that is all! It is understood?

 

Q- From all the above, can we conclude, Venerable Master, that the physical aspect of the center of the Earth belongs to the Three-dimensional World, and that the Supra-dimensional and Infra-dimensional aspects are located in those Underground Regions of the planet, where the three-dimensional intellectual and sensory perception of the "Rational Animal" does not arrive?

 

R- Distinguished gentleman, I want to inform you, and in general to all this audience that listens to me, that our five senses only perceive the three-dimensional aspects of existence, however they are incapable of perceiving the Supra-dimensional or infra-dimensional aspects of the Earth and the Cosmos.

 

It is obvious that the Underground Regions of our world, have three fundamental aspects. However, the ordinary senses only perceive in a superficial way the Physical, the Three-dimensional.

 

If we want to know the Upper and Lower Dimensions of the interior of the Earth, we must develop other Faculties of Perception that are latent in the human race.

 

Q- Dear Master, should we understand that in the Supra-dimensions as in the Infra dimensions, living beings inhabit?

 

My friends, unquestionably the three Zones within our world are inhabited. If the Lost Souls live in the Infra-dimensions, in the Supra-dimensions of the planetary interior dwell many "Devas", "Elementals" of higher order, Gods, Masters, etc., who work intensively with the intelligent forces of this Great Nature. We could talk very extensively about the populations of the Central, or Supra-dimensional, or Infra-dimensional zones of the interior of our world, however, we will leave this for future talks; for now I say goodbye to you, wishing you a very good night.

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