Spiritual Forum

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  Acute Observer January 4, 2014 at 11:49am

  I do believe in a Utopia, but I do not believe that I'd function very well in one. I'm too different from everyone else, too weird, too "impossible".. :)
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    TheOne > Acute Observer January 8, 2014 at 10:40pm

    how sooo? may i ask what do you do?
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      Acute Observer > TheOne January 11, 2014 at 9:38pm

      I were banned from contributing to society at all 3 years ago and soon they're gonna try to extend that ban for another 15 years. Not that I care anyway. When I find what it is I wanna do I'm just gonna do it weather the state permits it or not. ;)
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    Michael > Acute Observer January 5, 2014 at 6:45am

    Utopia is so possible AcuteObserver....yes, we can do it.....................................
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      Acute Observer > Michael January 5, 2014 at 10:41am

      Anything can be done in this universe. It's just that I've noticed that the reason for why most things AREN'T being done is due to the workload that's involved in getting there.

      TheOne seems to think that this is going to be vacation, and I'm here to tell him that he, his children and his grandchildren will probably have to work far more than todays citizens just to sort out the social issues of this community.
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    Sky > Acute Observer January 4, 2014 at 5:57pm

    ...Lol Join The Weirdo Club.......Im In There Too.....:)....x...
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      Pet Rock > Sky January 4, 2014 at 10:49pm

      weird is ok Sky
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      TheOne > Sky January 4, 2014 at 9:12pm

      right on everyone yes the skill you want to master with,will be your job that will help the community. i think no more than 300 people on a 300 acres but thats when the next one is built and on and on. it more about have in the power to live to full healthy freedom. there are many ways to build houses the earthhouse is the most newest way and it is great. wind and solar are great too, i am looking to reusable energy as well and crystal powered generators is the new, water i found in the air h and o just need to put the 2 together and h2o water or a well maybe both. green houses for veggies and herbs and spices grow easy. fruit trees grow and grow have like 3 in front of your home you will have more fruit then you could eat. the land will be a garden and we will live in it at the end call it Zion call it Eden call it Utopia, but it is going to happen. its its will to be!

      i would be cool to have different ponds for fish for shrimp and more.

      i am willing to give up meat i really don't want to slaughter 
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        Michael > TheOne January 5, 2014 at 4:20am

        .......300 people on 300 acres of land sounds a bit like a nightmare of blending different characters cramped in such a small space. County and state officials will have a field day enforcing sanitary laws on you, which permits and by laws thing must be done, will cost a possible small fortune~even if technologies used on property like hydro turbines and solar panels.

        .and I think that property taxes will skyrocket on members. 

        feds just might pay you a visit just in case , to see if you have weapons, grow ganja and how children are treated. So many people  cramped in a middle of desert does not sound smart. Minus well declare  petition to the county to incorporate new village in the state. 

        another possible problem~ if the property is not a piece of dry sand but lush forest, think about how much environmental damage you will cause by thining the forest to make room for all those folks moving in, even if half of 300 shows up. Enviromental state and county laws might just get you in serious problem and possible redtag on property....................

        Back in Arkansas and Colifornia I was involed in running farms and orchards. Had to know the laws and what can or not do in order for such "buisness/retreat/gardens to thrive. 

        .......and there is the water issue~ arizona deserts dont have much water and buying properties with running creeks and rivers cost a fortune( water privaledge) and digging multiple wells , about 1000 feet deep each is a serious mistake............................there are so many issues involved but 300 members on such small land is a mistake...............in order for this comunity to surthrive everyone needs more privacy and plenty of farming land to support this place and even make money on the side from the produce grown there. It means that we just downgraded #'s of members by %75..................................
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          Kira > Michael January 11, 2014 at 10:01pm

          That's one acre per person which is really not all that bad but in community not necessary.  Probably people are going to live in group homes. In community people tend to be ok living in a room and sharing common areas like living rooms and kitchens rather than having individual houses.

          There are many communities around the planet. Check out sites like http://www.ic.org/

          If you live in Northern California, check out www.harbin.org.  This is a 300 person intentional community which is situated around a hot springs. They have a church and are a non-profit.  

          Also there's a huge community in Germany called Zegg.  Check them out at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZEGG_(community)

          Good luck. Many travel and explore communities, see what works and what doesn't.