I feel a lot of the ideas that float around in this community are actually very harmful to a person's psyche.
I don't mean to be brash, but how stingy do you have to be to think the Universe as it is isn't "good" enough for you? The Universe is a motherfucking miracle! Pardon my french. :P It is beautiful and complex and ordered. Have you ever stopped to think how much of a blessing it is to exist whatsoever? How fantastic it is that you can watch a herd of wild horses gallop across your field of view? You can grow, care for, and taste that first delectable strawberry of the season. You can remember past loves over a sensual glass of wine.
Unfortunately, you will probably never ride a Unicorn over a rainbow, but you can use that fantastic mind of yours and write a poem about it.
Next time you are out in the woods, find a flower. Look at it. Don't try to transfer healing energies to it because you can't, just look at it. Notice its specific shape and hue. Smell it. Think about how many things had to happen just so, so that you and this flower could share this moment. Millions of years of evolution or natural selection, generations upon generations of flowers. Think of its purpose. It exists to make more of itself. It uses Bees to procreate with other plants! The harmony of nature is astounding.
Now, after all of that, do we really need to keep rambling about an ascension that is never going to happen? You "ascend" when you are born. The kingdom of heaven is all around you.
Wake up.
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all you've got is a distraction. I take it.
You have yet to even address the scientist I linked to, who had a very much more than 3d experience.
Since you're too busy wiping the carmel off your elbow. . .
http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_ins...
recognize that Celestino may not dig some things, just yet, they need to become more clear and understood, or "proven" etc but he has reasons, or perhaps to say that better. . . reason, let science and scientists do their thing, it is helpful, I say this because really, their is a merging going on, for real, yes ego is prevalent in the science world, old news, arts as well
hehehe, I'm gonna continue the war
just a bit on "translation", from my "world"
"dimension" - DAMN, doesn't anybody here just translate what others coming from different fields of knowledge and walks of life are saying, cause thats how the transaction really works I believe, lets just say I am a dummy, yet I understand all this stuff, but not in the mind and mindedness of perhaps all others, alot of this to me is about translation of what others put on the table here in this thread and beyond, faith went on about all this perfectly I think, (I still gotta read those links)
in other words an artist and a scientist CAN explain things to each other about solving a singular problem, or revealing it and so on etc, BUT that will never happen
till they sleep with each other, or generally agree on each others minds, as important part of a real whole of work, that they both agree and recognize is apart of both of them, and their works and works of mindedness
this has always been a secret supposedly unnoticeable "thorn" in science, and also, in the same, this effects arts/artists, (change the term artists to whatever you believe would fit the bill for you), I think this is something that can truly be solved and has been in history, but between us, (this kind of transaction between these "different" people), between say friends and such, really anybody, small group etc, on any "level" etc. . . or. . . . . here, hehehe
also Celestino, this is "our" thread now, hahaha, ( though thankyou, hehehe)
absolution or apsolutionism, what about a paint brush stroke, the two have to combine. . . somehow. . . then we can grow, perhaps in the realm of process, over progress? or just those two combining more evenly, recognize this as giving smoother transition to our human rocky growth through the centuries to come
ok ok, let me try again, what if absolution was knowing the universe by say. . .. dancing with it, yes yes, roll those eyes : )
their needs to be "liquid" in between the "structure", maybe like a car engine.
hehehe, ok I'l stop