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written by Drunvalo Melchizedek

He represents the most prominent initiator of the Merkaba teachings which titled
"Flower Of Life". Since then he is promoting spiritual tools further and
regularly contributes articles on the net which we enclose here as we receive
them. Definitely one of the outstanding individuals promoting spiritual
consciousness on Earth.

4th Dimension Is Upon Us! -
Explorer In Consciousness Drunvalo Melchizedek - Interviewed By Publishers
Diana and Kenneth Burke Drunvalo is a big-hearted, gentle man who "walked
into" his adult physical body in 1972 and who retains full memory through
different lifetimes and varying dimensions of consciousness. He is an
accomplished scientist, physicist, inventor, healer and teacher. His main
purpose in coming to our 3-D world at this time is to help Earth's people to
make a smooth transition through the upcoming Shift of the Ages. He feels the
most important work "is to remind us about our MerKaBa, the powerful etheric
fields that exist around each of our bodies, which have been in a dormant state
since the fall of Atlantis," which occurred approximately 13,000 years ago.
Drunvalo and his facilitators teach the acceleration of perfect health,
well-being and spiritual transformation through the activation of the MerKaBa,
resulting in deeper contact with the Higher Self and giving "unparalleled
protection" as Earth goes through its changes, as well as strengthening all
aspects of one's life. The MerKaBa is activated through an ancient way of
breathing and meditation originally taught in the Egyptian Mystery School.
Drunvalo's long-awaited first book, "The Flower of Life," is soon to be
released in Spring of 1997. For information about Drunvalo's Flower of Life
workshop or to view his information-filled video series, readers may contact
Christan Hummel at: (619) 726-1027 or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] LE: Do you
feel that our society is going to crumble fast ... or can the coming 4th
dimensional shift be smooth? Drunvalo: I feel everything is a dream. It's all
light. And it is what we think it is, whether we're conscious of it or
unconscious of it. If we come together in our hearts enough, we can change that
dream and lessen the violence and pain that could happen during the transition.
we were completely together as a planet in love, this transition would be one
of great beauty. It would be the most beautiful thing one could ever imagine.
We're about to implement a cleansing program for the world ... if the secret
government will allow us, and they're saying they will. LE: They are? Are you
in communication with them? Drunvalo: They're doing pretty good, but they're
going through a lot of changes. LE: Tell us about your cleansing program.
Drunvalo: Well, the program is remarkable. We have figured out how to erase all
the pollution off the heal the planet back to the way it was 1,000
years ago, and we can do it in less than a year. LE: That's fantastic!
Drunvalo: Hopefully, people, when they watch their planet go back into
cleanliness, will respond by not wishing to continue doing what they've been
doing to recreate it all over again. We can keep it clean. We have learned how.
In a little while I'll discuss this more. LE: Okay.
Can you share some details about the upcoming 4th dimensional shift we're
headed for? Drunvalo: What's happening now is souls are moving all around the
universe into the geographical area most attuned to where they're at
vibrationally. So, when they make the transition it will be more comfortable
for them, and it will be more understandable. LE: When the shift happens,
will there still be a third-dimensional world for those people who still want
to live in 3-D? What is your perception of this? Drunvalo: My angels
(Drunvalo's Higher Self) are saying that this planet, if it continues the way
it's going, if it doesn't change, is not going to be habitable. There's
something happening in the third dimension that's forcing light to move up (in
dimension). The Earth has many dimensional levels. There are many worlds here.
There is not just one. LE: So, you're perceiving that when the shift happens
the third dimension, as we know it, will be no more. Drunvalo: Well, it
really doesn't make a lot of difference if it is or isn't. What's going to
happen is that consciousness is going to be forced into moving into higher
levels. Who is doing this? It's God. God is forcing us to make a change for
whatever the reason. The shift is coming from outside the (solar) system, and
that's God, from our point of view. LE: Will everybody wind up in the same
place in the fourth dimension initially? Drunvalo: You may end up in
different overtones of the fourth dimension, but only for a while. Eventually,
everybody will move into the twelfth overtone, and from there we will make
another huge leap of consciousness. From that point, according to the Ascended
Masters, we will move very fast, and we'll never be the same again. LE: Past
the fifth dimension? Drunvalo: We'll move into the fifth, which is
formlessness. There is no form in the fifth dimension. Although the fourth has
form, it's almost nonexistent there also. LE: Do you have any time frame
when this will occur? Drunvalo: Anybody who really wants to know can go
inside themselves and find out. I don't think it's a good idea to give a time
frame...although I believe it's coming very soon. It's dangerous to give a
time, especially for some people. It would be similar to telling someone the
exact day they were going to die. Your whole life from them on would not be
lived the same way. So, if you know the day you're going to make the
dimensional transition it puts your mind into the future rather than the here
and now, which is the only place you can change. So, I don't like to give
predictions of when things will happen. LE: How can a couple...a man and wife
or friends...stay together during these dimensional transitions? Drunvalo:
Remember that your partner has within him/her, literally, Christ consciousness.
Look into the other person's eyes and look past the personality until you find
that special place in the person...where you see the Christ
consciousness. If you both see the Christ consciousness in each other, then
that bond is so strong that it overcomes everything. I think it is one of the
most powerful things that there is. You're not looking at the other person as
only a human, but you're understanding and seeing their divine side. That was
done in Lemuria. They got to the place in their meditations where they saw the
Christ within each other. When they made love and had a baby, they saw that the
baby was God. In the actual...really doing that...really making it alive, they
became immortal. That form of Tantra leads to immortality. You don't have to
have a baby. It's only knowing that God lives with the other person...that God
actually lives in everyone. Live that belief and you can go through anything.
I'd like to continue something I started talking about earlier. LE: Please
do. Drunvalo: My angels asked me to look at what was going on in Sirius B.
That's where the dolphin and whale planet
exists. The dolphins and the whales were into external technology until
recently. That's documented by what happened with the Dogon tribe, where they
came from space and landed in spaceships and where they created water and got
into it. If you are unaware of this, read Robert Temple's book, "The Sirius
Mystery." LE: Okay. Drunvalo: It is written in a cave in Africa that the
dolphins and whales had spaceships until at least 700 years ago. My angels told
me that about 200 years ago the dolphins and whales began a process where they
were letting go of external technology, and they managed to completely get
themselves out of it and internalize everything. So, they don't need anything
any more. Everything is completely internalized. On their planet, around Sirius
B, there are humanoid types who are still connected to technology like we are.
And they have created a right-brain psychotronic technology. It has no moving
parts. It looks like sculpture. they can do anything with
it. It's a technology that, once it's used, it transforms the user so that the
user realizes they can do whatever they just learned within themselves. Very
rapidly the humanoids are becoming Cetacean. The technology itself is actually
getting them out of technology. LE: That's wonderful! Drunvalo: As I
started to talk about earlier, we are about to implement something like this
here on Earth. We've gotten permission now, and we did a lot to make certain
that we have permission from every level (of spirit). I'm referring to our
beginning to clean up the planet. We have a simple technology. It runs on only
20 milliwatts of power, which is almost nothing. It needs only a tiny 12-volt
battery, but with this little device we recently finished cleaning up the
entire city of Denver. Denver was the most polluted city in the United States.
It's now one of the cleanest. You can go there and see a bug on the's so clean! Two years ago a group of scientists from a
corporation called Key Research, Inc. set up a tiny machine that created a
tube-torus 35 miles in diameter. All they did was play the wave-form of a rain
cloud into the air. What is does is it cleans out all the pollutants in the
sky. It brings rain. It raises the water table. It also dropped the crime rate
by 31%. It's very complex and I can't get into all of it now. there's much more
to it. It has to do with the geopathic lines that run through Denver. There are
six of them. They had to be mapped. LE: Are your plans to send people to
different cities with this technology? Drunvalo: We're going to train people
to do this and clean up different areas. We're talking with Egypt about
cleaning up Giza and Cairo, both of which are very dirty. We believe that, if
it as implemented in the right area, almost overnight (it actually takes less
than 90 days to do the major part of it), all the skies of the world would be
clean. Then, we can go to the oceans and clean all the
oceans. Next, we can go into the ozone and heal the ozone. Then we can go into
the Earth and actually transmute the poison toxins and the uranium and
everything into helpful Earthly elements and restore the Earth to the way it
was before. We know how to do this. LE: Did your angels give you the
information to build this device? Drunvalo: No. This was one of the people I
used to work with who built it. He took the information of sacred geometry and
put it into little tiny coils. LE: We understand that you have spent quite a
bit of time in the fourth dimension. Can you please describe this more?
Drunvalo: It isn't anything at all like the third dimension. Every dimensional
level is completely different. Every time we take a step it's different...
LE: water and land? Drunvalo: It's even more different than
that. Everything...the whole way that spirit relates is different. In 4-D you
do have bodies, but you can fly. You don't need food. There are
many differences. The colors are completely different. The way that you
interact is not as an individual but as a unit, like a cell within a body. So,
everything that you're doing is being done in synchronicity with other life.
Although, some of the lower realms of the fourth dimension are not healthy.
They are rather distorted, like this one is, where you've got a lot of weird
thoughtforms. But the higher realms are very evolved. The seventh, eighth and
ninth overtones are where your angelic realms are. The tenth, eleventh and
twelfth, right next to them, is where the higher levels of human consciousness
are. Other levels of consciousness move through there also, not just humans.
(Check out Astral Planes) LE: You've stated before that we can change our
body forms in 4-D. Sounds like we won't get bored. Drunvalo: It's a thousand
times more interesting than here. Every breath is like an eternity; it's so
special. We have lost our connection to God here and we don't
remember what it's like to have God in and around us, moving through us, and
to be intimately connected with God, so that, whatever you're thinking and
whatever you're feeling is directly created. You could go into the fourth
dimension and actually recreate the third dimension. That is a child-like thing
from their (the beings in 4-D) point of view. We are considered babies there.
So, as a baby we will create a more-or-less third-dimensional world, but it
won't last long because you quickly realize that whatever you're thinking
starts happening, and the whole idea that we are separate becomes meaningless
very quickly. LE: What is our next step in evolution? Drunvalo: I can't
really say except that we will move into formlessness. We won't have bodies,
and we won't have too much of a localized _expression. We will be much more
expanded, but the understanding of "expanded" will keep growing. Every time we
go into another dimension, the understanding gets higher and
higher. It keeps growing. LE: Once we get into 4-D, how long will it take of
Earth time before we get to the twelfth overtone and take off beyond that? Can
you estimate this? Drunvalo: It's all potential. It's all light. It's a
thought in the mind of God. What happens will be that our memory of our
previous Earth 3-D will be like it happened a long time ago. You could go into
the fourth dimension for hundreds of thousands of years and come back to Earth
and only a few seconds have gone by,. It's very different in 4-D. We are now
slowly beginning to interface with the fourth dimension. A lot of people think
we're already there. We're not. But 4-D's effects are beginning to effect time.
Time is speeding up. Things are beginning to go really fast. LE: In your
perception, is this dimensional movement beyond our solar system, the galaxy or
does it include the whole universe? Drunvalo: We now believe it affects all
life everywhere. LE: There's a concern right now by a
lot of people about our economy. Can you comment on this in the context of
what we're discussing? Drunvalo: We're heading into a time when everything
can fall apart. This could happen. The Mormons are told to prepare for what
could be as long as two years without going to a store. I think that if things
start crashing that we're going to have very little time left before the
transition. It could be only a few months. And it may be that we'll get through
this (transition) without any warning at all. We're (Drunvalo's group) doing
things right now to help make the transition even easier. The longer we can
stay in 3-D on Earth right now, the better it will be; it gives us more time to
make things easier. So far the secret government is not stopping us. LE: Can
you talk about that? How aware is the secret government of your activities?
Drunvalo: They are absolutely aware. Some of them are assisting us in any way
they can. However, the biggest problem now is the military.
There are certain people in the military who are out of control. They're in so
much fear. What's happening is that this understanding (of the upcoming
dimensional shift) now has filtered down into lower levels of government. For a
long time it was only held in the secret government, and the privileged
governmental heads were allowed to know. Now, many of the governmental heads
know. LE: So, some of the secret government people are working in harmony and
cooperation with you instead of against you? Drunvalo: Well, it's complex. In
1985 or 1986 the secret government realized there was no sense in going back to
Mars (editor's note: see book, "Alternative Three" for information pertaining
to Earth bases built on the moon and Mars by the secret government some years
ago). They allowed the Berlin Wall to fall and then Russia, and they allowed
information to begin to come out at a lot of levels because they began to
understand that everything was all One. They didn't like
this realization. It wasn't their nature, and they had done everything they
could all of their lives to stop it, and now they realized they were part of
something they never wanted to be a part of...which is what happened in
Atlantis when they were there. They didn't want to be a part of the feminine
pathway. So, a portion of them broke off and really tested the system. (In
September of 1995) they were going to blow up eight atomic bombs at Mururoa
Atoll in the South Pacific. (Editor's research: AP news article dated 9/5/95
from Papeete, Tahiti, stated: "The blast took place at 12:30 p.m. - 5:30 a.m.
EDT - in a tunnel bored 1800 feet below Mururoa...The blast equally less than
20,000 tons of TNT...the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima was equal to
about 15,000 tons of TNT...Chirac announced the planned tests in June, saying
they were necessary so that France could create computer simulations that would
make further tests unnecessary. 'These programs are indispensable
so that we can be in a position to guarantee the viability and the certainty
of our nuclear arms in the long term,' said a statement by the Defense
Ministry.") Were you aware of this? LE: No. Drunvalo: They blew up six of
them. It was through the French, but it wasn't the French doing it. There were
several governments involved. The secret government wanted to blow up the axis
of the Christ consciousness grid, which passes right through the center of the
Earth. At the same time -- the day before the bomb blew up and the day after --
all traffic was blocked into the Great Pyramid. They were setting their
instruments there at the Solar Cross in Egypt to see what damage they had done.
They wanted to see how strong the consciousness of the Earth's people was. On
the fifth bomb, actually, the Earth began to awaken. She had been unconscious
and asleep. On the sixth bomb, in January of this year, the Earth awoke. She is
now conscious. Now that she is awake, although she
hasn't yet, she will begin to make changes that no one can stop. LE: Did
they damage the Christ grid? Drunvalo: No. On the sixth bomb they had their
intelligence people inside the pyramids watching to see what would happen. At
that moment a man appeared out of nowhere in the middle of them. He was one of
the Ascended Masters. He didn't say a word. He opened up an etheric book and
let them read from it. After that they changed their minds and have canceled
the other two bombings, although this has never been announced to the world.
But, they still have one thing going on, and that is HAARP (Editor: Little
known, Pentagon-sponsored radio-physics project, called the High-Frequency
Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, designed, according to "Popular
Science" magazine, "to transform areas of the upper atmosphere into the
equivalent of huge lenses, mirrors and antennas.") LE: Yes. In Alaska. Is it
as bad as is reported in "Popular Science" magazine? Drunvalo: It's
worse. It's a weapon thousands of times stronger than an atomic bomb. It makes
the atomic bomb look like a firecracker. They can go into a country, like
England, and destroy the entire country in a matter of seconds, once it is
perfected. LE: They produce different types of radio waves. Drunvalo:
Through the HAARP antennas they can transmit billions of watts of energy into
the atmosphere. They actually boil the ionosphere and turn it into an antenna,
like a mirror, from where they can reflect down. They send up ELF waves but it
comes down in long waves, and they can send huge amounts of energy wherever
they want. They can do huge destruction. They can change weather patterns, and
can control human moods, mental thoughts and feelings through this. And this is
going on-line in the spring of 1997. The first atomic bomb was blown up (and
they never talked about this at the time) without knowing if the whole world
would blow up when the bomb was detonated. And they blew it
up anyway. This is documented in history. The government wanted to win the war
so badly they were willing to take the chance. In the spring of 1997b when
HAARP goes full tilt nobody knows what's going to happen! They could actually
destroy the whole ionosphere! they don't know, but they're willing to take the
chance. LE: You're saying that some of the levels of the secret government
want you to be successful, not the groups that have broken away from the main
group. Drunvalo: Yes, they realize that we're the only ones (that they know
of) who hold an answer for them that they can see, and they want us to be
successful. It's the higher levels of the military who are scared to death. The
reason they are afraid is that they are there with their time machines standing
at the edge of the Great Void. They can go into the past and the future through
the understandings of the Montauk experiments and through their remote viewing
(two different systems). And now, as they're
looking into the Great Void they're being told they have to go in there. This
is very real for them. They have located the Great Void and have sent people in
there and they have never come back out. They're scared to death. LE: They
know that, somehow, you've got the answers to the Great Void? Drunvalo: Yes.
Some of the higher levels of the secret government know. It's the lower levels
we're having problems with right now. So, if it's necessary, we will walk into
their machines and go into the Great Void (editor's note; protected by a
MerKaBa) and come out, so they can see that it's okay...that life just doesn't
disappear, and so they can have hope because we want everybody to be unharmed
by this, even the military. We'll prove to them that it's okay. Whatever it
takes. LE: Do groups work together with their MerKaBas? Drunvalo: Yes. If
you know the advanced work, two or more people can link their (energy) fields.
A tri-phase MerKaBa, which is what we call it, is
not a little thing. It is 1.6 million miles across. It entirely encloses the
planet. If their love is great enough two people in a tri-phase MerKaBa could
completely change the world. It depends on how much you can accept and how much
they believe God is present!
For information about the pollution cleansing coils, or about attending a
Flower of Life--Merkaba workshop, contact: Christan Hummel at
EarthTransitions.Com. Drunvalo is giving a second level, three-day workshop
called "Earth-Sky" in England in March, and in Holland in April. The
prerequisite for the workshop is taking the Flower of Life training. Drunvalo
will discuss advanced uses of the Merkaba, and how to link directly with the
Merkaba of the Planet. For more information contact Sally Young in England at:
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