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"And they want to be free of Islamic Thought Police, with their "moral code" applications upon women, especially..."
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It is a lots ignorant about Muslims to say that in a country with 95% Muslims, they will want to see women dressing in underwears all around like in Britain or U.S.! If you want to sell a notion of 'not to impose a moral code on women' to Iran, a Muslim majority region, first of all set an example of 'morality' that is acceptable in Islamic teachings. So far the west is a very poor example to Iran etc, pertaining to how a 'free' woman should behave. So it is an insult to intelligence to say 'majority of Iranis want women to be free', with 'freedom' being as articulated by a westerner! Never!!
"Obviously you are an islamic enthusiast, if not an actual practitioner, so whatever I say to you, will always be ignored in favour of your religion...."
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Your tone is that of some aversion to religion in general, and Islam in particular, but somehow think you can be a spockesman of Muslims!! If I sound like an Islamic enthusiast, If I sound like an 'Islamic enthusiast', it only shows that I can better advocate for a 'majority Muslim' region. Otherwise someone who show some aversion to Islam, might be clouded by his bias against Muslims.
Now lets check a bit. If someone sitting in armchair in London, listening to some MSM could correctly tell what 'majority of pple in a region' wants, then we won't need any election anywhere on earth. Just ask that guy to tell you, and then swallow it as 'fact'. From that, we can tell that no facts have been presented to us here at all! Just some unsubstantiated opinions!!
Saying that Iranis don't want their government is, tacitly, saying that Britons or Americans or whatever are ones who erect governments that 'their pple want'. How absurd! In Tunisia, we saw pple overturned their government, in a way completely analogous to the 1979 Iranian revolution. The lesson here is that Tunisians did not require our 'help' for them to topple the government they did not want. Same applies to Sri Lankans recently. Same applies to French Revolution etc. If Iranis will ever hate their government, they will initiate another revolution with or without any help from external.
But then after the Iranian revolution, the theocracy was installed, then followed by an attack by Saddam, with the help of Europeans, USSR and U.S.. Common sense indicates here that if Iranis did not want the theocracy, as in if elections were faked, as Drekx alleged, then they would have joined arms with the rest of the world to overthrow the thus initiated regym. After all they were the ones who had just overthrowed a powerful government backed by the west and USSR. So what happened that made them suddenly impotent to the extent that a theocracy could be imposed on them? This makes zero sense!! So the only tenable conclusion is that Iranian theocracy is very popular in Iran
This is going around and round, with you, so I frankly will ignore you,henceforth, as it gets absurd when you ignore my presented evidence from inside Iran sources...Yes, keep reasoning based on false evidence....Unless you are in contact with an Iranian, on the ground, why should I believe you..??
"Fake elections.....Are you that naive....??"
Nope! I reason that it is a real election sinse it reflected the correct percentage of Muslims in Iran, and that Islam teaches theocracy!
The other claim, that 'majority of Iranis wants secularism' is not backed by a reasoning based on any fact whatsoever. It is just a bald assertion!
But more importantly for us, we want an Iran that is peaceful towards the UK/US/Saudis/Israel, as well as their neighbours. Currently they are the biggest exporters of trouble and terror....The region is getting sick of it...
One of the createst mess that U.S. did in Iraq was to, immediately, try to impose capitalism in Iraq with the same 'majority of Iraqis want capitalism' presumption. They don't! Iranis voted for theocracy by over 95%
However I do believe that an intelligence war (using esoteric and exotic tech) against that dictatorship is justified and there are very large sections of that sad society, that are fed up with the Islamic tyranny, upon their day to day lives....And we should support the actual people of Iran in overthrowing their Moslem republic....Apparently, many of the people there want a secular democracy, free market economy and capitalist system, with a constitutional monarch restored...There is a Persian royal in exile....If he seeks the role.
We don't need to invade, but we do need to provide more coverage of the internal situation, giving the people support....
So if I were you I would stop conflating my views with the cabal's, who enjoy invading countries and turning them into desert wastelands....
I want Iran to retain their civilisation and infrastructure, which is MUCH MORE THAN ISLAM....The religion you are always quoting at us..
Furthermore this habit of bringing in an emotionaly charging issue, pertaining to ethical reputation of the subject in question amid reasoning is exactly what Trudeau did with 'we should not support pple with swastika symbols'. Every government has wrongdoings. Saudi prince even embarrassed Biden when he thought that U.S. is 'a government of virtues' by showing examples that made Saudi's crimes pale in comparison. So yes, we might love to vilify Iran, but is U.S. or Britain any better? Should we not talk positively about US canada etc, maybe because Biden or Trudeau is there?
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