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“Pre-Adamic Civilizations and Flood”

  Scribed by Valana

 

It puzzles us from other worlds as to why so many today are listening to every voice but the voice of God recorded in the Sacred Scriptures of the world, given to man on the earth as a road map back to God.

 Perhaps one reason is that man himself has not understood correctly the scriptures. To rightly understand the sacred scriptures it must first be understood that scripture interprets itself. One cannot take an isolated scripture alone without comparing it with others.

 It's often said that science now disproves the Word of God, but does it? Or does it prove man has not rightly divided the Word of Truth?  It's still widely believed that the Bible teaches civilization on the planet is only six thousand years old and science has proven otherwise.

 More people have discarded the Holy Word of God over that one thing than any other statement supposedly in the Bible and it is not there. Let's see what the Bible really says.

 Science has proven there was an ice age long before the story of Adam and Eve that are considered the first of God's creation of man. Are you aware the Bible speaks of that ice age? The Bible also speaks of a Pre-Adamic flood and Pre-Adamic civilization prior to Adam and Eve where people were on Planet Earth.

 Science is correct, however, the scriptures also verify that correctness and we're going to prove it here. Religion has continued to argue for the six thousand year old earth in the face of scientific fact the planet is millions of years old. This is not denied by the scriptures in fact it’s proven to be true.

 The problem is not in the Word of God given to mankind as a path back home but the problem lies in man's misunderstanding of what it says. The problem is not in the original scriptures, the problem is in the translation of them.

 Let's start with Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven(S) and the earth..." between this scripture and Genesis 1:2 millions of years elapsed. Let's look at what it says to begin with.

 In the King James translation and in the future we'll refer to it as the KJV, the word heaven in the original Hebrew is plural and some of the newer translations do show this correction.

This goes along with the very accurate "String Theory" that there are dimensions as well as universes within universes ad infinitum, not just one universe and one world.

The Hebrew word for one Heaven is Shama, that's not the word in that verse, it's ShamayIM. “IM” is the Hebrew equivalent for the English "S". The correct word is Heaven(S). This word has been corrected in the American Standard and English Standard Versions, Darby's translation, Young's Literal translation and others.

 I'll throw this in as a tidbit to cause you that feel you came from Acturus and therefore disdain the Bible, it speaks of you, as the Acturian sons. So we can throw out the false opinion that the Bible claims the Planet Earth is the only inhabited planet in the Universe with that one scripture. Keep reading and I'll tell you where to find it later.

Do you have any idea how fast Light travels? If I took my ship, and I have a ship, I'm a star ship Commander, and if I were to travel the speed of light around the Earth I would circle it seven times in one second. That's how fast light travels. The Universe is increasing faster than the speed of light. And yet all is within God. That's how big your God is that inspired the writing of the Bible.

There's nothing outside of God. God is Infinite Intelligence and didn't make any mistakes. Man has yet to understand in full the information hidden within the Sacred Scriptures.

I'm just going to touch on a few scriptures that prove what God makes is perfect.  Nothing is imperfect that God ever created. Let me handle the question of a destructive God right here. When the scriptures say that God did something destructive it means the law of karma was in operation.

If there were no law of cause and effect the whole of the Universe(s) would be in chaos. The Bible was written by men with the understanding they had at the time of writing. The Old Testament Prophets saw many visions and they could only write them from their understanding at the time.

Ezekiel never heard of a space ship or as some call them on the Planet, UFOs and flying saucers yet he described one adequately in his vision of the wheel within the wheel. Elijah was seen being taken up into a Chariot of Fire. Though the writer of that scripture had never seen a Star Trek movie he did very well.

Another taken up in the early part of Genesis was Enoch, of whom it said he walked with God and was not, for God took him. Understanding how one can be transported to a ship gives new meaning to that verse.

Was there another bible character suddenly taken up into the sky to disappear that was witnessed by others? In the first chapter of Acts we find Jesus also was seen rising up into the clouds. How do you know that wasn't by ship technology?

Are people from other worlds mentioned in the Bible? The word "Angel" means literally, "messenger from the sky" but was translated Angel. They were never described as ethereal creatures with wings nor little fat women as artists have portrayed them to be.

The descriptions of Angel visitants in the Bible weresimply men in the likeness of those on the planet. In fact many times they were mistaken for earthborn men. If they were vastly different than men of the earth why would the scripture say in the New Testament to beware lest you are entertaining angels unaware? How could you be unaware of entertaining an Angel if they looked different than ordinary Earth beings?

Artists did not get their ideas for angelic beings with wings and sometimes little fat ladies and even babies with wings from the Bible. The one scripture that speaks of winged Serahim is speaking of Seraphim not Angels…that word is not translated  the same.  Angels are messengers, men and women from other plantary systems, sent to the Planet to assist you to understand God.

Let's look at a few more scriptures to confirm that what God makes is perfect. Deuteronomy 32:4 states that "his work is perfect" Isaiah 45:18 declares of the Earth, he makes it not in vain and he makes nothing void. Remember that word "void". Ecclesiastes 3:11 states he made everything beautiful and Psalms 18:30 declares His way is perfect.

 Remembering the above lets read Genesis 1:2 "and the earth was without form and void" There's that word again, "Void". Remember Isaiah claims he made nothing void. Many have used these very scriptures to say the Bible contradicts itself, but does it? Let's look at them another way. They are saying everything God makes is perfect and he makes nothing void, yet Genesis 1:2 says the earth was void and this after Genesis 1:1 that states God made it.

 So either the scriptures contradict themselves or there is not the proper understanding. Between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 there are millions of years. How do I know? We've been here. There's evidence of UFOs and space men from the beginning of the current civilization that is only six thousand years old. But it is not the only civilization as the Bible teaches it is not.

 Let's look at Noah's flood. It was on the ground forty days and rescinded slowly. There are scriptures of a flood that was instantly removed from the earth and that flood could not have been Noah's flood. Those scriptures also are used to say the Bible contradicts itself but does it? Or does it teach of a Pre-Adamic flood and a Pre-Adamic civilization just as many today believe and as science is proving.

Was there an ice age spoken of in the Bible? Yes there was. Job 28:25-30 speaks of this ice age. There has not been an ice age in the last six thousand years so this must have been prior to Adam and Eve. Job 38:8 speaks of God causing rain where no man is. There were many men and women at the time of Noah's flood.

Instead of discounting the Bible let's rightly understand it and this scripture shows there was rain prior to the rain of Noah's flood yet it was the first time it had rained in the current civilization in Noah's time.

Psalms 104:4 speaks of the waters instantly disappearing at God's rebuke yet at Noah's flood they did not instantly flee but slowly went down as Noah stayed in the ark over 150 days.

Jeremiah in chapter 4 saw almost the same thing as we find in Genesis 1:2 yet he saw more. He saw cities laid waste. That is not for the future that was the past.

Isaiah 24:1 speaks of the earth being turned upside down, this also had to have happened prior to Genesis 1:2. Job 9:5 speaks of the time the stars were sealed and the sun could not shine on the planet. This was because the flood that covered the earth froze. Archeologists have found an elephant frozen in the process of eating.

It is at this place we find the earth in Genesis 1:2, without form and void. Let's examine that scripture closely.

"And the earth WAS without form and void".

Reading it with the word "WAS" it does not adequately explain that something happened to the earth between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

That original Hebrew word is only translated "was" seven times in the KJV, but translated "became" thirty-two (32) times and "came to pass" twenty-one (21) times.

Now translate it correctly and it says, "The earth became without form and void after God created it perfect. Therefore the rest of the chapter happened millions of years later.

The word "Let" is a permissive word not a word of primal creation. God said, "Let there be light". Light was already in the universe but the earth was in darkness as it was covered with ice as thick and hard as a stone according to Job 38:25-30. Read these scriptures for yourself and you'll see both the Pre-Adamic flood and Pre-Adamic civilization plainly stated and described.

Job 38:25-32 (KJV)

“25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; 26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; 27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth? 28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew? 29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it? 30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.”

 

The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 1.8 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago.  The most recent Ice Age occurred then, as glaciers covered huge parts of the planet Earth.

When those scriptures are rightly applied they do not contradict each other but they prove that the planet is much more than millions of years old and not only six thousand. The current civilization is only six thousand years old not the earth which is ancient.

Those die hard Bible thumpers that continue to believe the Bible states the whole planet is only six thousand years old are turning away those that would accept Jesus Christ as a reality figure by their ignorance.

When the rest of chapter 1 of Genesis speaks of the various things taking place the word "Let" is always used. This is not a new creation but a permission for certain things to again be made visible to the planet.

The stars were not created in Genesis chapter one but their light was permitted to again shine upon the planet. It had been so encased in ice that no light from either the sun or the stars could penetrate it but instantly that ice was removed and the light of the sun and light of the stars were again visible on the planet itself. Then many animals and creatures that were kept in frozen state came alive and the grass and trees began to come forth with the permissive command, "Let there be..."

With the understanding of the one word "Let" being a permissive word and not a creative word the Bible is made clear and the pre-adamic flood and civilization revealed as true.

There is no other actual proof of a prior civilization other than the Holy Word of God so if you do believe in an earlier civilization including Atlantis it would be well to study the proof within the sacred western scriptures and not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Now I promised a scripture about the Arcturians.

Job 38:32 "Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons." This is not all the mysteries of the sacred scriptures. I'll be sharing more in this series of teachings on Bible truths.

Val

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One of the biggest arguments of Bible critics is that the Bible unscientifically teacdhes the Earth is only 6000 years old...

WHERE?  There is not ONE scripture that says it yet it's generally believed by Christians and non-Christians... WHY?

Just plain IGNORANCE and lack of knowledge of whatg the Bible really says....

The ahove scripture teaching should be a required reading in every school of theology..not bgecause I wrote igt for Val (laughing) but because it's truth...look the scriptures up for yourself...and you cannot give one scripture that says gthe Earth is only six thousand years old but that's been taught through the ages.... let the Bible speak for itself not some ignorant preacher that never read it.

When I was in Bible school a few months, and that's how long it took for me to find out the instructor didn't know as much as I did as I'd read the Bible all my life through many gtimes... the first thing he did was ask how many had read the Bible from cover to cover.  Out of over a hundred students only seven of us raised our hands...he let us have vacation until the class took turns reading the Bible from Genesis to Revelation aloud.

Our mistake was looking in the window and making races at the readers!  He caught us and brought us back in to take our turn at reading... lesson learned...never make fun of people!  LOL  

There is another truth of the Bible Val teaches, but I don't think it's in this article...I'd like to just mention it and the reason will be known by some and some won't catch it...if you do you can have a laugh with me! :-)

Humm...the Bible does NOT call Venus the Morning Star...in fact, no where does the Bible even  mention Venus nor the real Morning Star....

One scripture only uses the actual words "Morning Star" and that is when Jesus himself says in Revelation 21 "I AM the bright and morning star"...now Jesus was not Venus!  

The term "morning star" for the planet Venus is a modern term and even if Venus were mentioned in the Bible, though it is not, it would not havfe been called "the Morning Star".   Orion is mentioned and so is Arcturius and also the people on Arcturius are mentioned and called "Sons of God"... actually only the word "Son" is usued gbut it means Sons of God.... or whose Sons are they?  This is not the only reference to intelligent life on other worlds but I'll let Val do that if we ever get time to do it.  The Bible teacfhes extraterrestrial life and also it teacdhes other civfilizations, on this planet.  

People are too quick to condemn something they know nothing about.  Until one has read the Bible from cover to cover they have no right to condemn it's teadhings. And by the Bible I mean the actual original texts accurately translated. The King James has over 5000 translator errors and that's enough to throw it away and start over.

Let me just share one important one as some religious groups still do not accept women ministers...

The same word used to call a male a Deacon of the church in the New Testament is translated "SERVANT" when it is a female...very same word in Greek...

A big argtument in my day was between the "CHURCH of God" and "ASSEMBLY of God" as to which was the true church of the Bible.... both words, "Church" and "Assembly" as well as "Gathering" were all translated from the very same Greek word.  If I had my Bible program I could tell you the Greek words but it bgroke and I can't bgut trust me, the words are translated from the very same word..It's if the translators (who were all Catholic gby the way) didn't want people to understand the Bible....

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