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  Pichu November 18, 2011 at 5:03am

  About the guy? Yay! About his working place... NAY! 

  It's true that you are what you do but when it comes to running a nation, we gotta remember it's not only up to him. 

   

  Anyway, this is a grey area, there is no black and white here.... No pun intended!
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    Randude > Pichu November 18, 2011 at 6:02am

    Amen
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    John Jancar > Pichu November 18, 2011 at 5:15am

    I agree with you entirely, Pichu. It's not a black and white issue. It's a very colorful issue, with all types of colors coming into play. There are so many different variables involved, it's not wise to just boil down to black and white...either he is good or bad. He's a good guy, who's work place has him do some bad things sometimes, that might go against his true desires. It's a tough position to be in, and I cut him major slack. I don't know if I'd play it as wisely as he is, I would probably be more blunt and confrontational...which again, probably isn't the wisest thing to do. And I really doubt it's as simple as....they are just frontmen, doing as their told....I know it's much more complicated than that.
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  3hs3r1aapii2g November 18, 2011 at 2:31am

  That's right James,

  And there's been no shortage of peace and prosperity candidates who keep losing elections. Voting priorities need to change for the better.
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  SkyDreamer84 November 18, 2011 at 2:22am

  I don't like him nor much of American politics anymore. He promised change and nothing changed except for the worst. There was high hopes for him in the Arab world but even they woke up to the fact that Obama is nothing but a fraud. He has even given himself the power over the internet. Even though I don't like Obama, I worry more of the choices on the Republican side of aisle for President. But at the end, the Dark Cabal will have who they want in as President. It has never been what is best for the American people but only for those who truly control the US. 
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    1loi1i9evzzvt > SkyDreamer84 November 18, 2011 at 2:40am

    This could be a trick question. Knight Templars? Para? LoL

    Bless the Nite,

    April 
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  1ewmf5f0v5uwb November 18, 2011 at 2:21am

  Obama has so much blood and misery on his hands i feel it is almost too late for him. 

  My take is so far he has only continued the unconscious civilization. 

  My only slightest hope for him was someday he would lock himself in a room and go on the TV airwaves and come clean in every way.

  I am not holding my breath...

   
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    3hs3r1aapii2g > 1ewmf5f0v5uwb November 18, 2011 at 2:52am

    G64,

    Obama was dragged into Libya by the British, French and fanatical U.S. neocons. He hasn't started a single war that I'm aware of, are you aware of one? We're less than 6 weeks from all U.S. troops being withdrawn from Iraq. And what do you think is going to happen to the economy a year from now after the 2012 election when we're running $1.5 trillion dollar deficits? Probably not a robust recovery that's for sure. How much support is there going to be for staying the course in Afghanistan then? Probably not to much.
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      1ewmf5f0v5uwb > 3hs3r1aapii2g November 18, 2011 at 5:01am

      SC, John... drexk etc...

      boy!

      you guys, my fellows, I am on your side 100%.

      I can hardly wait SC to walk with you on your ranch up there....

      John you are a gentle warrior...

      Drexk I will climb in the light boxes as it shall be...

       

       
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      John Jancar > 3hs3r1aapii2g November 18, 2011 at 4:30am

      Exactly SC. It's not like Obama started the war. But because of the NATO alliance, if they want to take offensive action, America is obliged to co-operate, and I'm sure all of his advisers were telling him it's not in the best interest of America to refuse, which would not only strain relations with NATO countries, but also it's standing at the UN, and could have implications for the US economic recovery. So you know....it's a tough position to be in.

       

      And this wasn't a war, per se, there were no ground troops sent in, only an arms embargo and a no fly zone so Gaddafi couldn't bomb his own citizens. Which they were doing, he openly threatened and took action to starve cities in control by the rebel forces, and show "no mercy" to those who opposed him. And the resistors were begging for international assistance because Gaddafi's forces were slaughtering them.

       

      I remember one Libyan guy, I forget his name, who was sending out images and reporting the news from the ground in Libya, which was banned by Gaddafi who only wanted the world to see what he allowed them to see.....and he was shot dead by a Gaddafi sniper, in his home! The guy needed to go, we can go into the details of his crimes against humanity, and so far, I have not seen any evidence that America or British oil companies are taking over the oil over there. All this talk about going in there to get oil and stop Gaddafi from improving the country, is all a bunch of speculation, there's no evidence at all for it, and a ton of evidence against it. In fact, Donald Trump was even complaining..."Why aren't we taking over the oil, why are we not doing anything. We spend all this money, and get nothing in return." They are not taking over the oil, that's a myth.