Let us summarize what we know about ET societies. Something is revealed in Walsch`s Conversation with God, some we have seen in channellings.
# they are conscious;
# they understand without speaking;
# they have telepathic abilities;
# kids are raised by estimated elders in common sense;
# they have no money;
# they have no need for greed and jealousy;
# their juridical system is based on consciousness
# their technical enhancements allows them having no hunger and overpopulation, otherwise they find new places to live at.
In comparison to ETs, humans are like this:
# only a few are conscious;
# only a few understand without speaking;
# telepathic abilities are underdeveloped;
# kids are mostly considered property of parents;
# money makes the world go around;
# greed and jealousy is a main human stimulant;
# human tech enhancements have become a danger of self - destruction.
A simple minded individual might now come up with the conclusion: see, an ET society can properly work because their individuals fullfill the conditions of a properly working society. The conditions are conscience, enhanced soul abilities, no greed and jealousy and enhanced science for the sake of the individuals - all things humans do not fullfill.
The individual is tempted by his mind thinking, that such ET pattern would be the perfect solution if adaped by humans. The ET example thus serves as model of a well working society. Humans fail because they lack important conditions they not have. Thus humans are doomed having wars and social difficulties.
Next step is the search for reasons humans fail. A very old pattern had been found in the teaching of original sin caused by Adam and Eve´s disobedience. Later, in a more secular way, it was explained by Achrons and evil spirit beings having influenced human being and society.
A possible conclusion would be a belief in a recovered society after having removed the evil elements from disturbing humans - this should enable having a good working living together. Some call it shift from 3D to 4D or 5D.
In my understanding all mess in human society is not simply explained by evil influences, nor does any ET pattern simply expose improvements humans could urgently need. I simply think that any human mess is not coming from human disability and lack of conscience, but from the phenomenon FREEDOM itself. To say it more simple - I believe, the problems of human societies are directly related to FREEDOM humans are generally born in. Problems about awareness and living freedom are side effects - this is another chapter.
The essence of freedom is unfolding in ways according freedom. Freedom is allowing to unfold in ways even appearing against freedom. Any freedom approach must allow even ways apart from freedom.
Generally, freedom is the way to lead into equilibrium and balance. Therefore freedom is the way of creation, the way of unfolding being into being. It guarantees processes of finding equilibrium. In freedom all can appear and disappear, can thrive and find boundaries. In freedom each unfolding of being can test it`s existence, whether it can be stable or not. It opens ways to let creation find it`s unfoldings.
This is the reason for both, light and darkness, above and below, sweet and sour, large and big - freedom allows contradictions.
I consider all messes in human society not from a lack of ontological components, like awareness and special powers and wills, no, this is not the question. In this regard humans always lack something. It is the essence of freedom which allows messes, and we as humans must deal with it in human ways. The history of revolutions is one attempt breaking free, another is the history of utopianism.
From there I doubt any ET interference in building a new human society will make social messes disappear, for we live always under the verdict of feedom.
Let me be clear in this. Any wish of ET interference for creating a good working human society by forcing humans to become aware or by demanding special constitutions are not more than sophisticated fascism and another form of nazi camps.
I am aware that I`m imperfect and lack in many ways, but I am also aware I`m living under the verdict of freedom, which is the ontological basement of all Being. And this verdict is connected with many difficulties I live with. I refuse the belief of 4D or 5D being without difficulties. I don`t need another nazi camp.
A really knowing ET society would never interfer in human social stuff by forcing anything. An aware ET nation would deeply know the essence of freedom...
T......no there are no plans to force anything or impose a plan,,,this is our home and we are in charge, they are here to offer ideas...if we want...... I think that many problems would find a solution if we learned to Share.
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Freedom teaches us responsibility, it also demands it. Until humans as individuals and a species can accept and face that their choices have consequences, and NOT blame it on, evil spirits, will of god, ETs, bad childhood, bad relationships, drugs, lack of money, etc. THEN social problems will begin to fade. The spiritual benefits from this are extraordinary.
And No, I dont believe ANY 5D entity would force another entity into anything. However, i have read some channelings that use, coercion, guilt, bribery, and manipulation in their messages to get individuals to try harder for ascension, or communication, or volunteering. I do not personally believe that these channelings come from 5D, but it seems many people do.
..u have to define what u mean by "Freedom"... this is a very abstract term, and doesnt explain anything...
societies and people's beliefs and behaviors are A L W A Y S shaped by the environment they find themselves into...
the whole Earth now, in acting on certain paterns, because thats what "the program" that they are into, demands them to...
if you could change this program, or this "game", u would see a totally different society apear in front of u...
the only question is how aware are we to change this program...
No ET's are going to come in and force anything.
Our liberty/ liberation comes from ourself... not from external events... ;)
I thought it was because they did lots and lots of cocaine. my bad. :P
bahahahaha oh you make me laugh!!!! well done, love your wit!
I'm glad you can appreciate a wit as good as mine. My Ego just had an orgasm. :D
lmao got to give credit where its due.
This is a very persuasive argument, well stated, and one that I have thought about myself periodically. I agree with your conclusion that, "A really knowing ET society would never interfer in human social stuff by forcing anything. An aware ET nation would deeply know the essence of freedom..."
The real meaning of Freedom ... Quite the hard concept to understand . Your explanation's quite fine in my opinion . It's to do with Karma as far as I know . Hindu Texts teach us to have absolutely no Karma lol . We shouldn't do too much "bad" or too much "good" . Quite interesting concepts . Texts say , the moment where You have reached the state of No Karma , You have reached Enlightenment or being One with God . It's like consider each Human Being to be a Magnet , he wavers both sides , which causes disturbances in the Universal Flow , which comes back to the person , so if the person can stay aligned with the Divine Flow , and stays that way , He will become one with God . Basically we all have to exhaust our +s and-s , and we have to go through Human Life again and again till that happens , till it hit's us that the more Karma is done , the more Human Life Reincarnations we are asking for XD . It's a very very Vicious cycle , the Karma cycle . Say You have done too much Good in one Life , if You did not receive corresponding goodness from the Universe in that Life ... then Your Soul automatically takes Birth again , to exhaust that "inventory" of Karma .
Good and evil are both necessary to maintain balance, one must not think of this reality in terms of dualities but as one whole universe where everything is necessary. I believe this is why enlightened people do not judge, they only teach.
The Real Meaning of Karma :)
A brief explanation is on this Page