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i have quit drinking but its so tempting to drink beer again because beer taste so good to me. and whenever i go to grocery store i always go to the alcohol section to see all the different types of beers they have and read about them. i've heard that consumption of alcohol lowers your vibrations which i don't want but is alcohol really that bad i want to hear your thoughts on this. i am underage i'm 17 but in some countries its legal to drink alcohol at young ages. i am a very responsible person when it comes to alcohol and quite aware i would never even think about getting into a car or drinking to much. and actually unlike most people i am very intuitive and speak directly from the heart when i have been affected by alcohol or at least  i try to. i don't think i will drink to get drunk anymore i think that is alcohol abuse and i will only drink in moderation.

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Depends upon the person and what they can handle. Some can stay balanced and unaffected and some cant. I can be the same when Im intoxicated but marijuana forget about it.. Im a completely different person - although my sensitivity goes up. I dont think there is no final say on drugs and alcohol because a very small amount of people find answers and sometimes enlightenment through hallucinogenic drugs. I think its a small push in very rare cases. So I think you should go with what you feel you can handle

interesting thing about alocholics is there are essentially two types, habitual and chemically addicted.  The habitual ones we see they are sloppy drunks.  The chemically addicted ones are special because their bodies convert alcohol into something sort of like heroin, so they get "high" from booze rather than drunk.  These ones are the ones who can drink a couple 40's a day and a case of beer and not even stumble.

Ive definitely seen those two types at the bar. I was talking about when I drink which is not habitual at all. But I think sometimes its a mind thing too. There have been times when Ive been as high as a kite but then something terrible happens and Im shocked/scared sober

I can understand that, I have had a very good mushroom trip end because of a killer thunderstorm which dumped enough water to put our tents under an inch or so and lightning hit about 50 feet away from us.  Panic and action kill buzzes very very fast.  I dont drink because it is not for my system, it makes me vomit and causes severe hangovers with even a small amount.  So I dont drink, everyone else can drink if they like, this is all about personal choices and freewill and has nothing to do with negative or positive vibes or going to hell or any of that other crap. 

Yeah freewill your right about that.

Your very technical and practical in all your discussions, you must have alot of air and earth in you, or do you pay no mind to astrology?

I am virgo with cancer rising and my mercury was in virgo when I was born.  I am earth and extremely virgo.

Oh a perfectionist and always seeing the holes in every plan and argument makes sense now. Def don't come off as a cancer rising to me.. But your profile pic is hilarious because that's exactly how you come off :D

My cancer rising is something I keep to myself, an example though is I cried for a whole day last xmas when I read stories of kids asking santa for their parents bills to be paid. 

As do I, with my Venus in Pisces; Ill emasculate a man, then cry about it in the bathroom.

and that was adorable, the santa thing.

Greetings All... what a lively topic this one is, hehe...

I began drinking when i was under 10, i used to sneak out at adult parties and steal a drink, i hated the taste, but liked the effects, when i got into my mid teens, we used to drink every weekend, to get drunk... then i got a full time job, and the whole work culture was, have a drink, if you didnt, you didnt fit in, so friday night and weekend was drinking... then while working in a remote town, i got my wake up call, i became a Ambulance Officer/Paramedic, and i saw the bad effects Alcohol has on people, i saw many Alcohol related injuries and deaths, and sooo much sadness... smelling Blood mixed with Alcohol made my stomach wrench... i stopped drinking after the first few weeks, for good...

I dont think anyone of us can tell another to stop drinking this, or stop smoking that, or stop eating that, they need to decide to stop, by themselves, or get a wake up call like i did...

I Love how the Universe will provide us with these wake up moments, and that they will gradually intensify, till we get it, or end up leaving our physical bodies... we can tell someone till we are blue in the face that something they are doing isnt the best for them, but until they get it, and understand that for themselves, or get a wake up call, they will continue... and thats ok... the best we can do, is supply them the information, in a non-forceful, non-preaching way, and advise them it is not in their best interests to, and then Love them anyway... <3

Just do what feels right, and needed for you, at this point in time...

Goddess Blessings !

" We are not Human beings having a Spiritual experience, We Are Spiritual Beings having a Human Experience !!! "

Agreed. I got my wake up call almost daily from the earliest I can remember, up until I graduated from high school. I couldn't leave home fast enough. No more alcoholic bad tempers to deal with after that, no more urine to mop from the bathroom floor, and no more violent outbursts aimed at innocent family members. Very soon I had control of my life and the bills got paid. No more money wasted on booze. Life is good when you get to live it on your own terms.  

It's kind of disheartening to me that this is the #1 thread on Ashtar.

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