We are all just people, NO MORE SIDES.

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Permalink Reply by 19e2mvktfgs6q on October 24, 2012 at 5:25pm

I'm with Kelly, I have no idea what is going to happen and I don't pretend to know like so many people do, but at this point I would be very surprised if anything significant happens at all.  I used to be a "pseudo fairytaler" but the more research I did, the less sense all this stuff made to me.  I am not one of those people who believes that something wonderful IS going to happen just because I want it to.

So let's assume that nothing happens, what then?

Will we hear excuses?  Will we hear more lies?  Will those who believed in the 2012 magic feel defeated?  Will we be given another insignificant date?

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Permalink Reply by netcae on October 24, 2012 at 5:33pm

its weird all of it, i hadnt read anything about this but in 2008, something crazy happened to me and it was only when i read some stuff on the internet that i realised that i wasnt the only one with the thoughts running through my head, so its strange that so many of us have thought these thoughts, and the coincidences that are happening etc, but the dates and all that, i dont know where it all comes from, but must admit October 2008, i sensed the ufo thingy, and was quite relieved that the USA was saying things about a landing etc, this made me feel better as I really thought Id gone mad !!!!! and if I am mad, Im not alone ....................

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Permalink Reply by 19e2mvktfgs6q on October 24, 2012 at 5:42pm

Yes, our journeys that have brought us this far have been unique for each of us.

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Permalink Reply by 1uxvjrdkrgvf2 on October 24, 2012 at 5:39pm

Good questions.  I suspect we'll see/hear some of each of those Preparer.

My fear though is that some of them will say that they have actually ascended into 5D yet still doing the 3D thing so that they can continue to try and manipulate the gullible.  I do think there is something to it all but like you, I don't expect anything wild land crazy to happen on that day.

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Permalink Reply by netcae on October 23, 2012 at 7:50pm

yer, as as the moods change so does the weather........... its life, today could be good, tomorrow who knows ????

kelidescope ........................... always changing. this is life, always will be and always has been .....

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on October 23, 2012 at 8:01pm

I think it's important to see people as individuals, and not get into grouping....it's easy to get into an us vs them mentality when you start categorizing and labeling people. We're all people, with our own ideas and beliefs....that come from within us, and that's what we should focus on, what's inside each individual. Groupings and all of that, are just part of the illusion.

I mean it's real to a degree, like there is a black race lol There is a human race, ET races and all that, but is that really important. I don't think it's important, I'm much more interested in going inside...and getting to the heart of people, that's what really real. And if people have ideas or beliefs that aren't real, or we don't agree with....well that's just them....no need to put them into a category. It's not that collectivism doesn't have a reality, or isn't important....but it's not that important, not as important as individuals. After all, the collective is made up of individuals. You want to serve the collective, make sure every individual is taken care of.

Like they made clear in the Nuremberg trials....the state is meant to serve the individual, not the individual serve the state. The individual comes first. That's one of the things I didn't like about the Nazis, they thought individuals were dispensable, because the collective was more important. That's not the role of the collective though, the collective needs to make sure each and every individual has a good life, and has all the means to express their God given self, in all their glory and creativity. The collective should nurture the individual, so they can be all they can be, and in turn, the individual can serve the collective, but the individual comes first. That's how it should work.

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Permalink Reply by Marique on October 23, 2012 at 10:05pm

Awesome thoughts, I totally agree...I have been reading the boards lately and when I stepped back and looked at it without any inclinations or judgements....it was beginning to sound like a gigantic dog fight with snipping and snapping and barking fighting over an imaginary bone, not loving respectful individuals who want a brighter future who are willing to work together and coexist together.  I think humanity is having pains and trouble letting go of polarity and all that it brings because humanity is so entrenched in it, but we all need to get used to the idea that life would be far better without the " them vs us" mentality that has been running rampant for awhile now.  I can imagine someone new coming to read these posts, how idiotic and petty it all sounds sometimes like a bunch of kid squabbling and calling each other doodooheads, lol.  Nobody really knows as much as we all think we do, guess it is just better to admit to ourselves that the future will be as it ends up being and not worry about whether we are "right" or "wrong" in what we think is right.  If we can't even trreat each other with basic respect than how can we as a people hope to ever get beyond the way things are now, which we all agree is not so hot.  It is ok that we all have different feelings about things and different beliefs about things, we don't have to war over it.  Just my thoughts.  Love your poem Kelly. Thanks for this.

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Permalink Reply by ۞ Light of Wisdom ۞ on October 25, 2012 at 1:48pm

"I think humanity is having pains and trouble letting go of polarity"

Word! I've been saying that forever. But people usually just avoid answering to that, because it's the anti-dote to their ego driven point of view and its support for duality. And the ego does not like things that completely sweep away its megalomaniacal schemes and put it in its correct place, as the mere translator for the soul.

I think people think that they are going to lose something, as if they have something to give up. They think that non-polarity is both sides loosing a little and winning a little, instead of both sides winning the jackpot and realizing that they are one side in reality and not two. They seem to think it's a compromise, instead of a straight win beyond their imaginations. That's what might be interfering with them choosing the higher path.

So they hold onto (another problem) the idea of competition, instead of realizing just how unbelievable collaboration is in every respect.

Instead of trying to override each other's points of view (which is really hard to resist for those still based in the ego mind), [esp when they feel like they need to correct someone], they should actively be trying to harmonize each other's points of view into one. Or the alternative, show utter respect for the other person's point of view, which they themselves thoroughly disagree with.

I remember back a few months ago, maann, this site (well someone people on it) was like every other forum out there, not a hint that those people were spiritual/intellectually refined/culturally refined/tactful in the least bit.

If the supposed lightworkers are having enormous trouble moving forward and through an issue, the rest of the world would be up in arms, in the same situation.

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Permalink Reply by Miki49 on October 23, 2012 at 10:32pm

It seems to me that the Energies coming at us from above (data down & evolution up) are much less polarized or based on duality than ever before.  We must really be getting some help from entities who actually care about raising the Consciousness of Earth.  That itself is reason to be hopeful.

In dealing with people who are at different levels of LIGHT Consciousness there is a significant difference in their intentions.  I have been relying on that aspect of what they are about possibly too much in my decisions on whether to be willing to deal with them or not, but it is a good guage of how productive it will be to deal with them.

There is a very wide range of levels participating in the world of today.  Uncomfortably wide range & spectum of levels high & low.  Gates of both Heaven & Hell have opened & poured forth Entities into the world in both seen & unseen forms.  That is likely to be the case for the next decade considering the patterns from traditional Ephemeri as listed for the future.  Some Celestial Changes might happen during the Solar Max to make the Ephemeris less accurate so I'm not considering it to be written in stone - just something to pay attention to.

Really appreciate this insightful good sense post Kelly.  Hope to hear more from you.

 

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Permalink Reply by Kevin on October 23, 2012 at 10:43pm

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Permalink Reply by Pet Rock on October 24, 2012 at 4:26pm

I remeber playing games as a kid with nasty kids and when they couldn't win with intimidation, goading, heckling, cheating, bullying, they would say it's a tie so they could co-opt and share the winning and try and dominate again

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Permalink Reply by BarbaraLee on October 24, 2012 at 4:28pm

you say there is no difference between light and dark???   and you got these people to agree with you, how bad.   if you guys do not know the difference how are you correcting your ego...kelly you make a point we are all the same, NOT....but we don't spend our time saying mean things to each other if we have corrected ourselves...we are the light kelly...the ones writing cruel things in here are not.....i see, feel and read the darkness in here, you are not part of the darkness...and your swwet words are not going to stop the darkness from trying to hurt your feelings and trying to rob your joy...and trying to confuse us ALL...so we stay full of love and light shows us the way...see the lies and just move on.....much joy and laughter to you

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