"Vegetarianism functioned as a purification...If you eat something which is fundamentally based on murder,on violence you cannot rise above the law of necessity. You will remain more or less an animal

"Vegetarianism functioned as a purification. When you eat animals you are more under the law of necessity. You are heavy, you gravitate more towards the earth. When you are a vegetarian you are light and you are more under the law of grace, under the law of power, and you start gravitating towards the sky. Your food is not just food: it is you. What you eat, you become. If you eat something which ...is fundamentally based on murder, on violence, you cannot rise above the law of necessity. You will remain more or less an animal. The human is born when you start moving above the animals, when you start doing something to yourself which no animal can do. Vegetarianism is a conscious effort, a deliberate effort, to get out of the heaviness that keeps you tethered to the earth so that you can fly -- so that the flight from the alone to the alone becomes possible. The lighter the food, the deeper goes the meditation. The grosser the food, then meditation becomes more and more difficult. I am not saying that meditation is impossible for a non-vegetarian -- it is not impossible, but it is unnecessarily difficult."
~ Osho

Photo: "Vegetarianism functioned as a purification. When you eat animals you are more under the law of necessity. You are heavy, you gravitate more towards the earth. When you are a vegetarian you are light and you are more under the law of grace, under the law of power, and you start gravitating towards the sky. Your food is not just food: it is you. What you eat, you become. If you eat something which ...is fundamentally based on murder, on violence, you cannot rise above the law of necessity. You will remain more or less an animal. The human is born when you start moving above the animals, when you start doing something to yourself which no animal can do. Vegetarianism is a conscious effort, a deliberate effort, to get out of the heaviness that keeps you tethered to the earth so that you can fly -- so that the flight from the alone to the alone becomes possible. The lighter the food, the deeper goes the meditation. The grosser the food, then meditation becomes more and more difficult. I am not saying that meditation is impossible for a non-vegetarian -- it is not impossible, but it is unnecessarily difficult." ~ Osho

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Permalink Reply by Warrior of Light on June 30, 2012 at 7:25pm

Sister Asavari,

I appreciate your knowledge and the way you speak your words ... On the other hand, Shri Mataji has been my guru for over 10 yrs ... I have been practicing Sahaja Yoga for that long and there is no doubt, I experience Kundalini rising on a daily every time I do meditation ... which is twice a day ... I also observe Puja to all the numerous Gods ... I understand your belief system on your specific diet ... but from my experiences and my current diet, there are no obstacles encountered having to do with my vibrations or thoughtless awareness from my meditations .... As you should know, Belief systems do play a big part in ones ascension ... eventually, your beliefs will manifest into your reality .... so if you believe that a certain diet will benefit your kundalini rising ... so be it ... As far as Osho .. I am aware that Osho is actually another name for another guru Acharya Rajneesh ... but according to Mother, he is actually a Rakasha .... so I do not appy to his teachings or beliefs .... I don't argue your point that Mother was trying to appeal to international audiences ... that talk that I posted for you was actually held in China ... I can even post some for you that she held in India where she is saying the same context .... Again, I feel whatever works for you, is right for you .... You enjoy your diet and I also enjoy mine ... I know all about the positives on your type of diet ... and you never know, maybe one day I will take to it ... but for now, I choose to eat a meat based diet ... we are neither right nor wrong ... I thank you for your understanding on my real point on this discussion ... which of course is Mr. Krishna chose of words when dealing with subjects or people he doesn't agree with ... that was my whole point in discussion ... Iam interested in your recommended reading also of Baba Kinaram when you get a chance to send it ...

Many Blessings

Jai Shri Mataji Sister

Mike

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Permalink Reply by Asavari Honavar on July 1, 2012 at 7:57pm

Friend Mike, :))

I have several non-vegetarian friends and clients who i socialise with, and alot of times i end up treating them at restaurants... but in India, I guess its easy to tell a person that since I am a vegetarian, I cant treat you to non-veg, and its an accepted thing by most. Its just the way of life here.

But there are times when they treat me, and order non-veg food on teh same table, but I dont crinkle my nose at them and say that I ain't gonna eat with them, cause i cant stomach a person eating something that I dont. See in both cases its a matter of respecting personal choices.

Its good to hear that you are practicing Sahaja Yoga... and more so to know that your Kundalini is active. :)) That is a great gift, cherish it always.

As for OSHO... yes he is christened OSHO Rajneesh. :)) I dont allude to everything he preaches, but I do have immense respect for all his wise messages and also for his dance meditations. Try doing his Nataraja meditation (nataraja is the dancing Shiva) everyday for 21 days. :-P It's totally out of this world.

In the yoga that I am initiated into - Kriya Yoga, that of Paramhansa Yogananda - we are taught to never listen to anybody badmouthing our Guru. The moment anybody says anything even slightly bad about our guru, we are told to leave that space peacefully. And so, I am surprised that Sri Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who was such an exhalted figure in the spiritual movement of India, ever called another guru a Rakshasa... I am at a loss of words. I do not actually know what to say.

Am still looking for a english version of the transmutation story and Baba Kinaram's story. Will surely send once found. :)) Have a great day.

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with intent,

much love, light and laughter,
Asavari.

Permalink Reply by Warrior of Light on July 2, 2012 at 11:12pm

Hello Again Sister,

Yes, part of Mothers teachings were exposing the many False Gurus that are out there ... taking peoples money and possessions .... Iam sure you are aware of the many gurus that came to the West and was taking advantage of many ... Mother always said, A true Guru will not sell you anything ... because how can they sell you something that is already within you ... speaking about your Kundalini ... everybody has this energy within their sacral bone ... it just needs to be awakened .... She was one of the first gurus to do Mass Self Realization .... but of course Sister, there is corruption within any organization ... but it is up to the seeker to find his way through the Maya ... Maya is all around us ... I feel meditation is the most important thing at this point ... both collectivity and solo ... but I do listen to many of Mothers Talks ... and she even says towards her end that the most danger towards Sahaja Yoga is from within ...

Always seek the truth within Sister ... All Answers are within :)

Take care my Friend and Many Blessings

BTW, I read Paramhansa Yogananda book "Diary of a Yogi" (I believe something like that) many yrs ago and enjoyed it very much :)

Permalink Reply by Robert Naysmith on June 17, 2012 at 9:25am

There are many good points that have been expressed and would like to add one that maybe no one has thought of ,IF THIS LIFE IS AN ILLUSION AND WE ARE ONLY HOLOGRAMS OF ENERGY THEN ,there is acutally no killing going on to begin with,it is more of what we as indivivduals experience as good or bad and how we grow from the situation we put ourselves into.

by the thoughts we have.If we can look at this from an illusion point of view, then maybe it can help us to see others points of view.

good points -In the auto biography of a Yogi it says that scientist have disscovered that plants react to a leaf being cut off with the same basics as an animal or human as recorded thru elctro-sphylagrams when hooked up to the plants .So what I'm saying is that they too show pain or at least emotion when cut.

It has been mentioned that if we could live off of the breathe ,that we would not need to eat either plants or animals,that is a true staement and I have had thru heavy emotional stress proved this is possible.

I went for 30 days without food but meditated for 8 hours a day during this period.I found that when I reached deep levels of meditaation that I could feel and see a pinkish envelope or aura around myself and drawing that energy into my body.

This was not a conscious thing that I was doing ,it just seemed to be happening.I was just observing it as it happened.

The love of God to keep me alive.

I agree with it being a matter of choice , but there should be, thanks for the food ,as this will also help in the digestive proccess.

good point-They said that it takes an acre of land to support one large animal ,horse ,cow etc.but that does not take into account the land the animal lives on.

Iv'e heard that if we become vegetarians that this planet could reasonably support 10 milloin people ,that is 3 mill more than we have now.

Love Bob

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on June 18, 2012 at 4:33am

captain announced that he's going raw vegan

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on June 18, 2012 at 4:38am

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Permalink Reply by MasterofLight on June 18, 2012 at 8:31am

And I've driven by those cows many times on Hwy 5, standing in their own excrement day in and day out, no shelter whatsoever. Thousands of them. It saddens me every time I see them.

Well said Robert and I agree. The choices we make whether illusion or not may very well have a bearing on whether we pass or fail lessons of the soul, or ascend with our mother.

What will it take for us to learn the lessons and move on? This is the very reason many souls are stuck in reincarnation perhaps? The physical realm is like a sediment at the bottom of an ocean. Until one digs themselves out of the mud and begins to swim to the higher depths, the ocean floor is all they know...

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Permalink Reply by MasterofLight on June 18, 2012 at 8:57am

An interesting update on this radio show around the 35 to 42 min mark especially..

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-radio-network/2012/06/17/...

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on June 18, 2012 at 3:34pm

just found this picture on facebook and I thought it fits here perfectly

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Permalink Reply by ayurvedamasseur on June 18, 2012 at 4:28pm

Hello, Hello, are you all not getting enough of hearing yourselfs talk, let it go, let it go!!

Love and light to you all, Wilma (vegetarian)

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on June 19, 2012 at 2:26am

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on June 18, 2012 at 7:47pm

there is plenty wrong and unhealthy about eating animal product, for one is not good to digest such heavy food. More, considering non organic, free~pasture animal, it was bread in cruel sloughter house, pumped with steroids, hormones,cement, it's own kind left overs for feed and was killed while alive.

...to quote you melody : ...............Cruelty is not helpful for our world.......Thanks~!~