( I wrote this on the shark blog...and I thought it deserved its own blog lol There's alot of wisdom and insight to take out of this.....I hope you guys enjoy it.)
I remember reading something from Archangel Michael once, that I totally agree with....we're sold a false image here on Earth...of what oneness is. We're told, true oneness, is forfeiting our individuality, and moving into a collective. That's been a trick by the dark side, to keep us from true oneness, and have us give up our own independent thought and feelings and form into a mob mind, to make us easy to manipulate. Grays do that, Reptoids do that...because it's easier to control and manipulate a group mind, then individual thinkers. That may seem like oneness...but it's a oneness of mob consciousness, not true inner oneness.
True inner oneness, is moving deeply into your individuality...deep within yourself....and realizing there's no real separation between you and other individuals. They're all part of you. We're all part of each other. It's about seeing each person as an expression of the One, of God. Who only is One, there's no other God but God lol There's no other God for God to merge with into a collective group of gods, God is a lone individual, God is one and only one. We're all part of God, extensions of God, expressions of the One. And by digging deep into your own self, you're own one expression of the One...then you can feel true love, true unity, with other ones, who really are just part of you, your own self.
And I think that's alot of the problem with people. They're not real individuals...so they can't feel a true intimate sense of love and unity with others, from deep within themselves. They can't really have any original creations, or even thoughts. And I notice, that all the true genius types, or master creators, or artists, or self expressers....all the people who we would say are Godly.....are always very individualistic, they're unique and original...they think for themselves, create from an original place....like God does. I mean seriously...think about that...people....you might come to a realization.
And now, finally, the last of the misunderstandings, the live and let live attitude, I don't even believe in that. I believe we should respect different races, different cultures, different beliefs...as long as those beliefs don't hurt or corrupt anyone. If a band of criminals goes on a killing spree, of course we can't just let it be, and live and let them kill. Of course we have to do something about that.
If we have porno people, putting out porno, getting kids hooked on porno, corrupting peoples sexuality, with porno....then yes, we should do something about porno. We shouldn't just allow it, we shouldn't just live and let porn. We shouldn't even do that for alcohol. Somethings you have to regulate or outright ban, in a complex not entirely enlightened society as ours. If everyone was good and decent, treated others goodly and decently, did good and decent things...then okay, throw out the rule book, throw out laws and courts and police....but we don't have that yet.
As for people being equal but different....everyone is equal, and different....including at different levels of development. Doesn't make them any less, it just makes them less evolved. I can look at my cat, and know, she's not as evolved as I am, but I don't look down on her, and think she's low, sneer at her, and think, I'm so much better than you. I love my cat, I don't see her as less than me. Or I can look at an archangel, or some ETs, and know they're more evolved than me...but I don't think they're better than me, or me less than them, and throw myself at their feet and grovel and revere them. I can respect them, even try to emulate them, but I don't see them as better than me.
We're all equal, but different....and at different levels of development. And if someone, does something, to harm or corrupt others, or society...we have to do something about that. We can't let it be, we don't have to view them as lowly little worms, either.
""And now, finally, the last of the misunderstandings, the live and let live attitude, I don't even believe in that."
You said in one of your posts that you should not try to force people to conform. But you advocate government violence to enforce people to do just that.
"I believe we should respect different races, different cultures, different beliefs...as long as those beliefs don't hurt or corrupt anyone."
Well, you didn't specify that did you? You need to think before you type.
"I can look at my cat, and know, she's not as evolved as I am, but I don't look down on her, and think she's low, and sneer at her."
Yes you do. Do you have short term memory loss or something? In your previous post, you said that nature is brutal and unforgiving (something I don't disagree with). Then you said that it is only thanks to humans that life is now enjoyable ( I won't discuss that delusion you have here) and because of the inability of other lifeforms to create civilization (thus keeping them trapped in that stark wilderness) you cite this as a reason to say that humans are so far "above" every living thing.
And there is one more thing I want to add about the human vs animal "debate" . I know somebody from my chess club who is an atheist and also a member of MENSA. He is one the most intelligent and well educated people I have ever known. He is not one of the "hippy" types that you are referring to that tends to romanticize nature. He is quite happy to take advantage of everything that the post industrial society has to offer and he is completely opposed to the idea of human supremacy. He also thinks that in the grand scheme of things the "accomplishments" of humanity are not very impressive.
Also Stephen Hawkings, someone who is one of the greatest and most functional minds out there (also an atheist) doesn't think that intelligence in the grand scheme of things is all that important, that is in the documentary link I sent you. According to your logic, shouldn't he be one of the first ones to clamor toward the idea of human supremacy? He has far more of the trait that supposedly makes humans so much better than other animals (intelligence) and because of his physical disability can only exist because of human technological progress. But no, he has the intelligence and sanity to see how stupid that way of thinking is.
In fact, as an in general rule, the more intelligent and educated someone is, the more likely they are to reject the notion of human supremacy.
So no, John. Those who reject the idea of humans being "above" are not just a bunch of misguided hippies whose appreciation of nature and the rest of the animal kingdom is only made possible on the basis of the luxury afforded to them by modern society, as you claim. Just another idiotic straw man that you make up.
Well it depends how you look at it, you can look at it and go, oh that's not impressive. Or you can look at it and go, wow that's impressive lol It's a reflection of them, not reality. In reality it just is....we have our view of it, our filter...and how we look at it becomes how we see it.
Like I look at a bridge, and I'm amazed. It's an amazing piece of architecture. I can go to NYC, and I've been there, and see the Empire State Building, and go, wow, that is an amazing piece of creation. I can go to the top of the Empire State Building, and I've been on the top...and look over the city, and think, wow what an amazing piece of art this is. And it is art, life is art. Everything is a creation of some form, including nature. I know you don't believe in God, but I can look at the same thing you look at, and see Gods work...while you see a product of chance and probability lol That's the power of perception.
And no, it doesn't matter what Stephen Hawkings says, I don't see him as any better than me. Or even smarter than me. I have my own way of looking at things, I think as an individual. I think he's a smart guy, but off on a lot of things, including God, including ETs, including humans. I think intelligence and consciousness is important...very important....it's not the only thing that's important, but it's a big part of evolution. Clearly. And that's clear as day, so it's surprising how a supposed genius like Hawkings can say different.
It's hard to say one thing is more important than the other though. I look at wholes...I'm right brained lol Intelligence, spirituality, morality, creativity, expression, depth of being...to me, that's all important. Even physical evolution is important. To me, it all adds up to being a Godly cosmic being. Being smart, deep, living life from your being, having a good heart, being creative and expressive....knowing yourself, being yourself...living your dreams while helping others....that is what being an evolved being means to me. And you need all of it to do that.
And again, this superior-inferior complex is your hangup. I don't have that hang up.
Well in terms of perception, there is a sane and insane way of looking at the world. You can look at the layers of the Grand Canyon and conclude that it was produced over millions of years of by natural processes and erosion. Or you can attribute it to Noah's Flood around 5000 years ago like the demented Christians do.
Which is sane and insane?
One is based on evidence, the other is based on fantasy.
How about those occasions when "respected" egyptologists refuse to accept valuable geological evidence which flies in the face of their erroneous conclusions...??
For example, the unique weathering patterns upon the famous leonine body of the Sphinx monument and it's enclosure, in the Giza plateau, are confirmed as water erosion (heavy rainfall) upon limestone....which must have happened before the Sahara desert set in, dating the statue construction to have occurred before 7000 BCE and long before the time of Pharaoh Kafre, circa 2500...
However, these "scientists" refuse to re-write their history books, to take into account valuable (for once) objective proof that civillisation was on the earth long before Sumer....4000 BCE..
Note the water gullies left, which are totally different to sand pitting, from sandstorms alone...
The head was reconstructed much later, closer to Kafre's time...The original head was that of a LION...
Yea, you can talk with Drekx about that, he's the scholar around here...I'm more of a philosopher. But I can hold my own in any subject. And, nobody ever said it was one or the other. Who says it has to be, evolution or intelligent design. You guys say, I never say that. I know there's a reality to both.
I know some things are left to probability, others are intelligent creations. I know some things are natural formations...like in a Pakistani national park, there's this rock formation there that looks almost like a Sphinx...it really does look like a Sphinx, but it's completely natural. Obviously God didn't do that lol
But...there's other things...like there's certain fish in the ocean, that have coloring fluids on the tips of their nerve endings, that they can control to change colors to blend in with their surroundings. Now when I look at that, I see Gods work. I don't understand how that can happen on its own, no matter how long you give it. That's a clear, intelligent design. Same thing with Great White Sharks who have a dark back to blend with the dark sea when you look down on them, and white bellies to blend with the light sea when you look up. Clearly that's an intelligent design, it didn't just happen to form that way, by chance. It's meant to be there, so it can camoflauge.
There's a reality to both, and you won't understand life, until you bridge that gap, and connect the two. Science will always be incomplete as long as they leave spirituality and God out of the picture.
"Yea, you can talk with Drekx about that, he's the scholar around here...I'm more of a philosopher."
Seeing as this Ashtar group is basically a UFO cult, I suppose what he was getting at is that signs pointing to a very early civilization is somehow evidence that extraterrestrials visited the Earth a long time ago. Well that is at least a possibly testable hypothesis, but this is still based on fallacious thinking. It is still an example of bending and twisting the facts to fit some preconceived notion of reality.
"But I can hold my own in any subject."
You are seriously delusional if you truly think that. After all the ignorance and dysfunction that you have displayed, forget it.
"Who says it has to be, evolution or intelligent design."
The sane skeptics or the ultra deluded fundamentalists.
"You guys say, I never say that. I know there's a reality to both."
Wrong. One is based on evidence, the other is based on fantasy.
"I know some things are left to probability, others are intelligent creations. I know some things are natural formations...like in a Pakistani national park, there's this rock formation there that looks almost like a Sphinx...it really does look like a Sphinx, but it's completely natural. Obviously God didn't do that lol"
You are in no position to make such a claim unless you literally know everything there is to now about the universe and how life was created. Especially since you have no workable definition for what "intelligent design" is supposed to mean. What does it mean to say life was designed anyway? How did the intelligence do so? I asked you this at least a dozen times on YouTube and you never provided a rational answer. You just gave me some bullshit explanation about how the universe is your god's imagination, and that I was too "stuck in the physical" to see the design.
"But...there's other things...like there's certain fish in the ocean, that have coloring fluids on the tips of their nerve endings, that they can control to change colors to blend in with their surroundings. Now when I look at that, I see Gods work."
One of the problems with this argument is that you are using deductive reasoning to support your intelligent design hypothesis, which is not valid here. Deductive reasoning is only valid under two circumstances. 1. It is established that there are a definite and finite number of possibilities and 2. that each possibility has been observed and demonstrated. I will give you a very elementary example that even you should be able to understand. Say I have 4 dice, a red, blue, purple and green one. If I take away the red, blue, and green one, which dye do I have left? The purple one of course. In that instance deductive reasoning was perfectly valid. This is not at all the case with your scenario. This is why I say you literally HAVE to know everything there is no know about the universe to make such judgment calls as to whether or not something was intelligently designed or not. Because in the scenario with the dice that I gave above, in that instance you literally did know everything there is to know to say that the purple dye was the only one left.
"I don't understand how that can happen on its own, no matter how long you give it. That's a clear, intelligent design. Same thing with Great White Sharks who have a dark back to blend with the dark sea when you look down on them, and white bellies to blend with the light sea when you look up. Clearly that's an intelligent design, it didn't just happen to form that way, by chance. It's meant to be there, so it can camoflauge."
Jumping to supernatural explanations when you don't understand how something in nature works is a fallacy. There is no functional difference between that and saying "I can't explain something, therefore I can explain it."
"There's a reality to both, and you won't understand life, until you bridge that gap, and connect the two. Science will always be incomplete as long as they leave spirituality and God out of the picture."
Spirituality and "God" are delusions made up from the diseased human mind. Science is one of the few healthy aspects of the human mind that is an honest concerted effort to discover truth.
See, this is why I don't take your word over the academic's. You use very faulty reasoning to back up your claims of "supernatural intervention" in the creation of life and you display an extreme, and willful ignorance about the subject of evolution.
Your philosophy is a joke and your willful ignorance is abundantly clear.
No it's a logical deduction, based on objective evidence, is what it is. You just have this idea, that there isn't UFOS, there isn't extraterrestrials, there's no such thing as anything paranormal or supernatural, or anything outside the small box that mainstream science and academia live in. You can't wrap your mind around higher, wider, more advanced universal ideas and realities. I bet if a UFO were to land on your lawn, and ETs got out, pounded on your head, and said I AM AN ET, you'd probably think.....this is an optical illusion lol
You're skeptical beyond reason, so there's no point in continuing with this, you're set in your rigid beliefs and biases...you're exactly what you pin on others....you can't have a reasonable discourse without taking little cheap shots at me...so you know what...get out of here...stop commenting on my post, I'm not responding to anything more you say, it's a waste of time.
"No it's a logical deduction, based on objective evidence, is what it is"
I already explained to you why deductive reasoning doesn't work to prove intelligent design. There is not enough information to say conclusively that something about an organism could not happen by natural processes, therefore it must have been a design; plus you have no working definition of what intelligent design is. Did that not sink into your head, or are you knowingly being dishonest? Plus you didn't say what this "objective evidence is". If you say it is that it couldn't happen on it's own, then you are using circular reasoning since you said that the deduction is based on the evidence.
"You just have this idea, that there isn't UFOS, there isn't extraterrestrials, there's no such thing as anything paranormal or supernatural, or anything outside the small box that mainstream science and academia live in. ou can't wrap your mind around higher, wider, more advanced universal ideas and realities."
Again, are you really that delusional, or are you consciously misrepresenting what I say? I have said time and again that there is no credible evidence that these things exist and those that claim they do have a very bad track record, therefore I reject these claims. I don't have a faith that these things don't exist and I certainly don't make a conscious choice to try to suppress any notions of these things existing as you are implying here.
"I bet if a UFO were to land on your lawn, and ETs got out, pounded on your head, and said I AM AN ET, you'd probably think.....this is an optical illusion lol"
No I wouldn't, that and maybe a ride in there spaceship and a diagram of their anatomy would be plenty of evidence for me. The very fact that you would even propose this shows how desperately you want to try to make yourself look like the objective one and that I am the one who is deluded. Absolutely pathetic display of projection on your part.
"You're skeptical beyond reason, so there's no point in continuing with this, you're set in your rigid beliefs and biases"
Just another attempt to project on to me what applies to you.
"you can't have a reasonable discourse without taking little cheap shots at me"
What are these "cheap shots"? If there are any "cheap shots" that I have thrown at you, they are all based on what you have displayed during this whole discourse, so don't say that like they don't have any substance. You have displayed extreme arrogance and a great lack of understanding on the subject of evolution. You think you have the most important aspects of evolution figured out so well to the point that you know better than REAL academics like Richard Dawkins and others who are far better educated and don't operate from erroneous logic like you do.
You're like somebody on drugs who thinks they can jump off a building and fly or stop a 100mph moving car (for you Canadians who go by the metric system 170kmh) by holding out their hand. I am not using ad hominem against you as you are implying here. These "cheap shots" are based on your inability to rationally present your case and to stand up to scrutiny.
"so you know what...get out of here...stop commenting on my post, I'm not responding to anything more you say, it's a waste of time."
LOL! Then what was all this crap you were telling me yesterday about how antagonists can be your teachers? You told me that you view me as an antagonist, so now why do you suddenly want me, your "teacher" gone? There is just no consistency with you, is there?
It's only a fallacy to you. It doesn't make sense to you. Because you never took the time to study, for you. People like David Wilcock, or Gregg Braden...21st century scientists, who've presented new science, which shows....how there's an intelligent field, or a divine matrix, that is intelligent...it's the intelligence that structures atoms into form, and gives life to creation. It's also what connects everything to everything else, hence the science of oneness.
Go look these guys up, and go look up the latest, 21st century research, its not accepted really by the mainstream yet, because you guys are still stuck in the 20th century, and don't open your mind to new information that contradicts your world view.
Alot of these new age beliefs, are backed by science, real science, not pseudo-science that edits out anything that contradicts the establishments idea of what science is. Most of that idea is actually a purposeful deception. But you don't believe in conspiracies either lol
There's no evidence to you. Because you won't look at the evidence, it's just that simple. In reality, there's a mountain of evidence....you just don't accept it, because you have a closed mind. You're ignorant, you're foolish, you're narrow, you're rigid...and there's no use in explaining it to you, because again, I can dump a truck full of evidence on your head, and you'll find a reason why it's not evidence, because you just don't believe it.
So take your prejudice and hit the bricks, or better yet, hit the books lol
Absolutely nothing that I am trying to tell you is sinking in your head, is it? Do you even bother to read the whole of my posts? You sure don't bother to address all my points as I do with you most of the time. So that shows that I am not afraid to take anything you dish out head on.Why don't you have the decency to address all of my points?