You are hearing this; Timothy Geithner, Secretary of the Treasury of the United States, has been taken into custody, has been tried by our High Courts, and has been convicted and has been sentenced for his crimes against the people of the United States who he was sworn to serve, but instead chose to victimize, steal from and manipulate, and push to the brink of financial destitution. This individual, after careful contemplation of his crimes against you, the people, has been sentenced to a maximum life of 63 years, of which time he is to spend in a mortal physical vessel where he will be reeducated and rehabilitated before he is once again permitted to walk freely amongst the people of a free society.
Anne, he was most probably taken anytime in between the meeting on the 10th and the 14th of July, before yesterdays message.
But he was with the heads of the Bank of England on the 14th, there's pictures of him coming out of a meeting with them. And he was smiling and jovial, he didn't seem like someone who knew he was facing 60 years for high crimes against the United States of America. And all I'm asking, and any reasonable person would ask, is why that is. There must be a reason. Was he taken later that day, transported to the trial, tried, convicted, all on the 14th? Are the trials really going to go that fast, literally 1 day lol
And it's not unreasonable to be asking questions like this, you'd imagine, it would be just regular questions anyone would ask. But apparently we're not supposed to ask those questions, or else we are just being fearful and distrustful and part of the old paradigm. Doesn't that strike you as fishy, doesn't that ring some sort of bell. And again I'm not automatically equating this with the real GF, all I'm saying is, maybe..just maybe...these Giles messages aren't legitimate GF messages.
I have not seen any articles/news about him being with or meeting with the Bank of England on the 14th although this below article was posted on the 14th talking about his indiscretions in 2008 etc...
The same article talks about him having the meeting which you are talking about, on the 10th of July 2012 .this is the one where he is Smiling and being Jovial.
"Bank of England: Geithner offered LIBOR advice
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner leaves a closed-door meeting with Senate Democrats on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, July 10, 2012. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D. is asking Geithner, as well as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, to be prepared to answer questions at a Congressional hearing later this month about allegations of global interest rate manipulation. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)"
There are NO new images or stories of Geithner having any meetings, or turning up to any appointments etc.
Todays message from GF via Greg says it all... i think having a loving attitude towards this issue will bring more solutions than if we are at each others throats about who we think is wrong etc. We are each free to have the opinions that we have, how we go about expressing those opinions is another thing. and John, i give you love for the way you are talking about this issue today, even though i have a different opinion than you i respect it, and no i personally do not find it fishy :D
This isn't about who's right or wrong, this is about what's the truth, and holding people accountable. I'm not trying to prove you wrong lol Or anyone wrong, that's not my intention at all. It might be your intention, but it's not mine. I'm trying to find out what's the reality, what's going on, what's going on with these messages, with world events, the arrests, with Geithner, in a way that makes sense and satisfies me. And my satisfaction is important to me lol Because frankly other people aren't being responsible enough about the whole thing, so I'm taking it upon myself, to make sure that all this information fits together and is in fact true information, so that I know we're not being played around with, or manipulated.
And that's really what it's all about for me, safeguarding humanity. Making sure that everything is okay and legitimate, and being a sort of representative of humanity, to make sure we're not being led astray here. And I don't think we are, I really don't, but that isn't going to stop me from continuing to ask questions and holding people accountable and holding them to standards.
And frankly I'm kind of appalled at how most people here, who are human beings, we are part of humanity...yet most people tend to identify more with the Federation, than their own species. You are a human being, so why is your loyalty more with them than with your fellow man. Why aren't more people sticking up for us, instead of making one excuse after another for why what we're getting from people like Giles isn't adding up. I'd like to see you, and more people, start putting your voices on the side of humanity, and start holding them to basic standards, and ask basic questions that anyone should be asking.
Ambereyes, I guess anything is possible LOL. Waiting to see out this plays out.
It still seems to me that you may not be fully considering the -possibility- that he was not arrested or contained in the usual sense we Earthlings might think of. From my research (I can send you some links to my sources:)) , it seems that he was "arrested" in the spiritual sense, in the dream state, as is the time that many of these channelings and interactions with the Angels and Higher Dimensional Beings (whatever you like to call 'em by) interact with us Earthlings so as not to cause too much alarm. I am hoping that since you are here on this website that you can be open to these other possibilities, which unfortunately at the present time are not as provable in a 3d sense alone. Hopefully, the changes that we are -all- mutually hoping to see in the world for the betterment of All will come about in a smooth and quick enough manner, so that totally3d proof won't be very necessary as proof that the actions taken by all involved were Right. If you can imagine it, these people who are arrested or contained, either by our systems of rehabilitation or by the gentler yet more advanced systems explained in some areas on the internet by the GFL and the like that are supposedly being used by these beings we don't all necessarily see in the 3d sense, are not being incarcerated but are given the chance to rehabilitate themselves by being placed in an alternate environment. The extra-dimensional beings that are assisting us with this choose to place them in an aura of Light and Love, and a small restriction against that which is harmful to themselves and humans they influence strongly or overpower- followed immediately by an overwhelming sense of Love. And those that are contained in our way of putting them behind bars get a bit of a more harsh fate, may be not as Just, depending upon the court and justice system in that country- we will see how all of this progresses, as I am sure we can all agree that the News stations that report the top news don't report on the -really- important stuff- usually it's just what they want you to think is important. But the Truth always comes out in the end, just keep asking questions :)
p.s. my apologies for any excessive run-on sentences ;p
p.p.s John, I sincerely appreciate your fervor for finding Truth! Many would be enlightened by inviting such diligence
Well if that's the case, they should lay it out and say that. But that's the thing, they're not saying that, they're not saying much at all, there's little to go on by way of details. So it's left people scratching their head wondering what's going on. All we're told, is that Geithner was arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to 60 years, a sentence he'll serve in a physical body. They didn't say anything about dreams, or the astral, or anything like that.
And they should be tried here, in the physical, under our laws, in front of everybody. We were told many times, by GF sources, that they will be tried here, at the Hague or some other court, in a Nuremberg like trial. Obviously you don't put them to death. But the crimes were committed here, against us...under any normal system, they would be tried here. After that happens, then you can bring them before a universal tribunal and try them there.
And yes of course we should ask questions, it's important for us to ask questions, it's important for us to be real and mature and responsible citizens, and not just believe things on face value. So doesn't it strike you as odd, then, that in the latest Giles message, they're saying how you guys messed up yesterday, it was a bad day, look at the comments you posted, full of fear and mistrust, if you're not going to just believe it, leave your tools at home and don't show up for work. I mean if this is the real GF, they have alot of nerve, seriously. They treat us like children. They treat us like we're not allowed to have minds of our own, and even ask basic normal questions any real person should be asking.
Well I'm telling you guys right now, if you're reading this, you may have some folks here gullible and naive like that, but not John Jancar. You want me to be on your side, you want me to work with you, I'll be happy to work with you, but you're going to be answering my questions, in a way that's satisfactory to me, not you. You're not going to be in a position where you'll say, this is all you're getting, be happy with it. It's not going to work like that. You want to do that with others, fine, with me, absolutely not.
And I don't know why that's such a stretch for you, I know if I was visiting another world, with the intent to help and serve out of love...I'd be more than willing to answer any questions they may have, to put them at ease. I would understand their doubts, especially if they have a history like we do, of being manipulated and used by people claiming to have their best interest at heart. Can't you understand that. If not, you need to smarten up a bit, seriously.
It's up to you to choose your path. I think anyone that tries to show you an alternate perspective whilst they are claiming Love, Light, and Truth as their objective, it isn't really that sinister, unless you can prove that it is. If they are in fact honest sources, then maybe the error is in the channeler, and not in the source of the message. Worth considering, no? They proooobably aren't in the business of providing answers to all that ask. One is responsible for finding the answers to your questions.....not demanding them from other sources.
From what I have read from all the Channelers, they do a darn good job of answering as many questions as they can for our benefit without robbing us entirely of the pure joy of finding at least some of the answers out for ourselves, and solving some of our own problems as we are -all- capable of doing.
That's baloney, you know that. Most of the questions people ask, are legitimate questions. Some people are skeptical beyond reason, but for the most part, the questions are real, important questions, that any responsible citizen of Earth should be asking.
And it's not answers we can just get for ourselves, when I ask a question about why I'm seeing Geithner still running around like nothing is happening, I can't answer that question. I have my theories, but I want to hear it from them, for a number of reasons....one, it shows that they're aware that some of us do follow what goes on around the world and not just believing them on face value, so that'll keep them more honest, and two, because when they say something, they have to back it up. They can't say that Geithner was arrested, tried and convicted, yet when people ask why he's still visible on the world stage doing his secretary job, say..well figure it out yourself, or find your own answer to that. Baloney. Why don't you just tell us why, and back up what you said. And I read all the channelings too, and I rarely seem them, or the channelers, answer anybody's questions.
But I know, people like to make one excuse after another for why things aren't adding up, or why they say some things that are questionable, like telling us how to run our online communities, even telling us not to do things like make our posts too long, or use flowery language, even though that's what they do. Or telling us, words to the effect of, we will decide how much information we give you, and you just have to accept it. No, if you want our support, you're going to answer our questions, and that's it.
Seriously, it's time to take our power into our hands, and stop being like naive little kids. This is supposed to be an equal partnership, but they seriously treat us like kids. I want to see you, and more people, start acting like a representative of humanity, and not a representative of the GF. You are a human, you're not in the GF, so start being a responsible human citizen.
dont worry... u see only a clone of him... the real one has been arrested... they just put up a clone now, for not to upset the people from their daily flow...
basically the whole cabal has been arrested... and what u see now is the clone cabal.... which they put there, for to not come too harsh on people so suddenly.... so dont worry.. the real ones are kept out... u are suppressed and controlled only by the fake ones now.. but they are fakes , right???.. not the real...
so no worries... things go as planned.. ;)
(and please.... dont ask me how do i know all this.... ;)
John, Iam glad we have you asking your questions and putting the spotlight on this situation which has been going on for months and months ... just constant BS being distributed amongst us here ... and then you have the "GROUP MIND" methods at work re-enforcing this BS .... new people come out backing each other up ... making it seem like the "MAJORITY" thinks like this, therefore its the truth ... this is classic manipulation at its finest ... this is why I state, time after time, this place is loaded with trolls .... I been on here for a long time ... just watching all of this ... the excuses are endless and honestly, down-right funny ... how can people be so gullible????? Man, people are sad ... now he is jailed within his "containment"???? ... how can you not laugh your ass off at this type of excuse?? ... just plain BS right in your face ... I must say, I appreciate that we have people like yourself, and Seeker of truth and One and the others who have the patience to go back and forth with the trolls on here ... cause I don't ... my tolerance level is low because I have been exposed to BS all my life, living here in NY since the day I was born .... I call a spade, a spade and then I am done with it ... but it literally amazes me and keeps me coming back to this site ... to see the excuses over and over again ... the failed promises that never come to fruition ... and of course, the many Commanders we have floating around here, who claim to be Commanders and Representatives of the GLF ... sorry guys, I think some people watched a little too much star wars and star trek in their past .... Keep these trolls on their toes!