By Lisa Haven
By now I’m sure many of you are aware of the events that transpired earlier today when a Russian Su-24 fighter jet was shot down by the Turks and landed in an area the Turks call, ”Turkmen Mountain.” While the mainstream media is painting their “version” of the story, the truth is much of it is a load of rubbish! In the video below YouTuber PressResetEarth brings us the real truth about the reason why the jet was shot down. I believe you’ll find what he has to say in the video, rather intriguing.
Here’s one more piece of the puzzle put out by Gary Franchi’s the Next News Network where he shows the weapons used by the rebels were American supplied:
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We have been in WWIII for a while now , from the time when Russia decided to help Syria with the "ISIS invation" , which in fact is created to take over land after land (with different names on the mercenaries.)
The real purpose for the western aggression is that the western countries are controlled by Khazars,or zionists if you like , and the Khazars (those who falsely call themselves Jews) have an ultimate goal - to create the greater Israel - to expand present Israels border to the land between the great rivers , Eufrat and Nile.
Even the Pope has recognized the present situation as WWIII -
https://www.rt.com/news/187576-pope-francis-war-italy/
Don't panic: Turkey shooting down a Russian warplane won't start World War 3
Russia and the West have many reasons to avoid conflict, but this incident still shows how dangerous the Syrian crisis is for the world
By Shashank Joshi
11:20AM GMT 24 Nov 2015
The apparent downing of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey – which Ankara claims was violating its airspace, despite ten warnings – is an exceptionally dangerous moment in Syria’s four-year civil war.
But, in the context of warming diplomatic relations with Moscow and the extraordinary risks of escalation, Turkey’s Western allies are likelier to proceed with extreme caution.
A crisis like this was almost inevitable. Turkey had complained of repeated airspace violations by Russian aircraft in early October, prompting Nato to issue a protest. Later that month, Turkey did indeed shoot down what, for one heart-stopping moment, seemed to have been a Russian fighter aircraft – but turned out to have been a probable Russian drone.
This is the first time since the end of the Cold War that a Nato member has downed a Russian warplane.
With Russia, Syrian, American, French, British, Canadian, and Arab aircraft filling Syria’s crowded skies, Russian aircraft coming with 500 feet of American planes, and Russia repeating some of its border-probing behaviour seen over the last year or two in Europe, a crisis was always liable to erupt. The US and Russia had agreed safety protocols in late October, including a ground communication line for round-the-clock contact, but this wouldn’t have applied to Russia-Turkey interactions.
It is crucial to keep a sense of perspective. This would not be the first time that Russian aircraft have been shot down by American-made planes, or vice versa, without sparking Word War 3.
Pakistan’s American-made F-16s shot down a slew of Soviet aircraft in the late 1980s, during the latter’s war in Afghanistan. Going back further, a US Army RU-8 Seminole flying from Turkey was downed over Armenia, then Soviet territory. The most famous incident is of course the downing of CIA pilot Gary Powers’ U2 spy plane in 1962. Soviet pilots also played an important covert role during the Korean War between 1950 and 1953, with Russian sources claiming that they shot down 1,100 to 1,300 American aircraft.
However, this is the first time since the end of the Cold War that a Nato member has downed a Russian warplane.
Although Turkey will insist that it was within its rights to shoot down a plane in its airspace, after the past month’s repeated incidents, its alliance partners in Nato will want to focus on de-escalation. Relations between the West and Russia had thawed slightly, though it would be premature to speak of a rapprochement.
In the aftermath of the Paris attacks, French President Francois Hollande announced his intention to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin with the intention of forming “one big coalition”. US President Barack Obama met with Putin himself with noticeably warmer body language, and the UN Security Council has passed a resolution sanctioning “all necessary means” to eradicate Isil (though, lacking in so-called Chapter VII authority, this was largely a political gesture).
The Middle East is bringing the world’s Great Powers into their closest proximity since Kosovo War in 1999, and in a far more dangerous way.
Talks in Vienna have also resulted in modest progress towards a peace deal for Syria. While Nato will surely release another note of protest over the apparent intrusion into Turkish airspace, Turkey’s Western allies will be wary of jeopardising what they see as these diplomatic gains by pressuring Russia too strongly.
What will Russia do now? Like any leader, Mr Putin will be under pressure to respond. But it is possible that Moscow’s adamant claim that its aircraft was in Syrian airspace – despite Turkey’s statement to the contrary, and supporting evidence from radar – will allow for a face-saving compromise, whereby Putin directs his ire at Syrian rebels rather than towards Turkey. The Kremlin mouthpiece Russia Today has likewise insisted that the jet was brought down from the ground. Paradoxically, this might have a calming effect.
Much will surely depend on the fate of Russia’s two pilots, one of whom was reported to be in Turkmen hands while another other, according to images circulated on social media, appears to have died.
Turkey’s government has close ties to Turkmen communities and rebels in northern Syria – only yesterday Ankara had called for a UN Security Council meeting to discuss escalating Russian and Syrian attacks on Syrian Turkmen – and could, perhaps, use this longstanding leverage to secure the release of the pilots or their bodies.
On the other hand, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan might well ask why he should lend such assistance to a country that continues to probe his airspace with impunity, merely to shield a Syrian diplomatic process that he, one of Assad’s bitterest opponents, views with scepticism.
Moscow and Ankara are likely to avoid a spiral into conflict over this incident. But the underlying cause will remain, and such episodes will repeat themselves unless Russia realises that brinksmanship on Nato’s borders is a reckless, dangerous game.
The Middle East is bringing the world’s Great Powers into their closest proximity since Kosovo War in 1999, and in a far more dangerous way. The Syrian war is not only generating vast refugee flows and incubating the world’s most potent terrorist group; it is also a cockpit of traditional state-on-state international rivalries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/12013517/Do...
Crazy war games, the whole thing is insane! Every single person involved with senseless bombing, shooting, killing, the people who plan it, all insane .. it dosent even matter what the reasons are anymore, its just death and destruction. War has been going on since mankind first roamed the planet and its still happening, we are living in mad world! What a mess this planet has become, with control freaks trying to keep everyone under their control, suppressed technologies, stupid armys fighting over territory, brutal cops, marshall law, lunatic trigger happy soldiers, crazy psychopaths, murderers, terrorists, sick twisted child abusers, sick twisted animal abusers, corrupt politicans, corrupt bankers, and arsehole parking ticket attendents, all of them are sick in the head, there are too many assholes in the world!
independent iol truckers in isisl held territory are also being targeted by obama admin of assholes-they take crude directly from the pump and travel to turkey and elsewhere-it was in 2014 about $500 million in revenue for the child rapist blood and sex magic isisl animals and now cut to $100 million but they tax, at gun point, all people within their territories almost to death-they steal farm and other equipment and then lease it back to the farmers etc. f-ing hell on earth
That's Nail on the head.
They shot down the plane because Russia bombed the illegal oiltransports into Turkey.
We are in WWIII now folks
OMG. Worst fears came true.
Russia: No war with Turkey over 'planned provocation'
Russian FM Lavrov says Moscow will reconsider ties with Ankara after the downing of its warplane along the Syria border.
25 Nov 2015 17:57 GMT | War & Conflict, Middle East, Turkey, Turkey-Syria border, Russia
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has cancelled a trip to Istanbul scheduled for Wednesday [AP/Ivan Sekretarev]
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has described the downing of a Russian warplane by Turkey as a "planned provocation" but said the two countries would not go to war over the incident.
"We have serious doubts about this being an unpremeditated act, it really looks like a planned provocation," Lavrov said at a press conference in Moscow on Wednesday.
Lavrov, who cancelled a trip to Istanbul scheduled for Wednesday, said Moscow would seriously reconsider its relations with Ankara over the downed plane.
"Our attitude to the Turkish people has not changed. We have questions over the action of Turkey's current leadership," he said.
The Russian Sukhoi Su-24 warplane was shot down on Tuesday for allegedly violating Turkish airspace, angering Russia's President Vladimir Putin, who compared the incident to being "stabbed in the back".
One of the warplane's two pilots was shot and killed after parachuting from the burning plane, while his crewmate was rescued by Syrian forces and delivered in good condition at a Russian airbase in Latakia province.
Speaking to Russian state media on Wednesday, the rescued pilot said that no prior warning was issued by Turkish jets.
"There was no warning, not by radio exchange nor visually. There was no contact at all," Konstantin Murakhtin said from the Hemeimeem airbase, adding that his plane was flying over Syrian territory and did not violate Turkish airspace.
Erdogan speaking at the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation economy meeting in Istanbul on Wednesday [Murat Cetinmuhurdar/ AP Photo]
Turkey has defended itself, saying the jet had crossed into its airspace from Syria.
Speaking at an Organisation of Islamic Cooperation economy meeting in Istanbul on Wednesday, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that shooting down the plane was necessary for security, but added that his country did not want an escalation of the situation.
"Turkey is never on the side of tension or hostility. We're always for peace and diplomacy. And we will maintain that attitude. We will not tolerate our borders being violated. And no one should expect us to. We do not have any intension to escalate any situation, we are only defending our security," Erdogan said.
OPINION: Turkey won't lose any sleep over Russia's harsh words
Turkey, Russia and their respective allies have entered a war of words after the incident, raising tensions in a region struggling to cope with the ongoing Syrian conflict.
Russia's defence ministry has announced suspension of military cooperation with Turkey, and Moscow is deploying its state-of-the-art air defence missile at the Hemeimeem airbase in Syria's coastal province of Latakia.
Lavrov also said on Wednesday that Russia was not planning on hosting any Turkish officials, nor contemplating making any official visits to Turkey.
Meanwhile, a group of protesters hurled eggs and stones at the Turkish embassy in Moscow on Wednesday. Police cleared the area and made some arrests shortly after the demonstration began.
On Tuesday, Putin sharply criticised Turkey for establishing contact with NATO to discuss the incident, before contacting Russia.
"Instead of immediately establishing contacts with us, as far as we know Turkey turned to its NATO partners to discuss this incident - as if we had hit their plane and not the other way around," Putin said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu sought to ease tensions on Wednesday, saying that Russia is Turkey's "friend and neighbour" and insisted that relations cannot be "sacrificed to accidents of communication".
ANALYSIS: Downing of Russian jet hardly a surprise
Davutoglu told his party's politicians on Wednesday that Turkey did not know the nationality of the plane that was brought down on Tuesday until Moscow announced it was Russian.
He again defended Turkey's action, saying Russia was warned on several occasions that Turkey would take action in case its border is violated in line with its military rules of engagement.
Russia has been carrying out air strikes in Syria since September, saying it is targeting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and the Nusra Front groups.
The Syrian opposition and Western powers, however, say the Russian strikes have mainly targeted rebel groups fighting the Syrian government - an ally of Russia.
Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/russia-war-turkey-planned-pro...