THE COLORADO SHOOTING : 'DARK NIGHT RISES' SHOOTING

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Permalink Reply by Warrior of Light on July 21, 2012 at 12:12am

I feel like that exactly ... and if that passes, you know what the next step will be ... I am sure the economic collapse will happen ... 

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Permalink Reply by Vagelis4VP on July 21, 2012 at 12:28am

..what i find strange, and probably many people who live outside US, is that people from what i see here, but in other forums also, fear that they will loose their gun possesion right...
i mean people living in the US find gun possesion as something completely natural... like u own...lets say a car, or a bike...lol...
this looks completely strange here...
this is another example of how people are shaped by their cultures...

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ContributorPermalink Reply by Delilah7777 on July 21, 2012 at 3:16am

Many of us don't find it "completely natural" at all Vangelis.  Our freedom to not get shot or killed by someone is removed because of their rights to own a gun or many guns legally.  

This guy had 4 guns, all purchased legally...  It's totally ridiculous.

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Permalink Reply by latroy on July 21, 2012 at 12:28am

right who know if that happen if they go after the pepole ones who dont have guns that my only worry me and my family who knows we will have too see

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ContributorPermalink Reply by Delilah7777 on July 21, 2012 at 2:06am

I think it's easy enough to say that something more was involved, deflect the blame onto anything else, so you don't have to think about the horrible alternative - that this person made their decisions - with a sound mind - no conscience - and had no remorse...

At some point, we need to start holding people (including ourselves) accountable for their actions.  

In the end/beginning, we all have to deal with what we have done, and no excuse is going to remove that.  

Ever.

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn." -Batman 2 (Alfred to Bruce Wayne)



The victims have been robbed of their life as it would have unfolded if this had never happened, but I know that in the great beyond, they are taken care of.  

I am sure they would have loved to have been here today.  

Alive and well.

~ <3

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Permalink Reply by Two Feather on July 21, 2012 at 4:04am

There is something more behind this. Too much MSM lies, retracting of statements etc. This right as there is a push to disarm Americans. I think we will see more come out. My intuition told me as soon as I heard about this shooting that there is something more sinister to this.

Thoughts go out to those affected.

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on July 21, 2012 at 4:39am

It's a fishy story, alot of signs point to some staged event. Initial reports of different accomplices now has turned into the usual lone nut idea. I don't know what to make of it, it's just sad people have to lose their lives, and people have to lose their loved ones, because of other peoples irrationality.

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Permalink Reply by ASPIRANT SOUL on July 21, 2012 at 10:09am

so,

 i just heard a lady call in to the micheal savage radio program saying that she believes that the shooter was a special ops guy and said that he was wearing a mask? and that the guy was a patsy and this was all in an effort to get people to support laws taking away guns from the people. i don't know the details but what i do know is conspiracies and if that IS what happened, it damn sure isn't the first time lets hope it's the last.

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on July 21, 2012 at 1:01pm

it should not surprise anyone that such thing happens in the most violent society in the world and during watching another violent hollywood movie, yet my first thought was that this guy's case fits perfectly in a patsy scenario like mind controlling event designed to put more fear into those affected by it. And it happened in an area "famous"/Colorado/ for dark energies.

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Permalink Reply by Solarkid on July 21, 2012 at 2:04pm

See? they are already saying that he was with the Occupy movement, a move to give bad fame to it, well this wasn't unexpected, I'm sure the next thing will be that he was planning a terrorist atack or something like that.

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Permalink Reply by Joyana Suwati Brookmeyer on July 21, 2012 at 2:31pm

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Permalink Reply by Drekx Omega on July 21, 2012 at 2:51pm

Americans look upon guns as normal assets to possess, akin to cars, lawnmowers and refrigerators...and I completely understand the historical reasons for this and on a personal level, can relate to their sentiments....The firearm was essential in aiding the American revolution in securing independence from the Empire...Completely understand this and also note how western governments have often used firearms misuse, in order to confiscate the rights of citizens to bear arms...An example being the Hungerford massacre in England 1987, when a loan gunman killed several people....This resulted in the cessation of the rights of English shotgunners to own more than one smoothbore on one license, as up to four were pemitted prior to the change. Also, much tighter scrutiny of shotgun security was brought in, under Tory Home Secretary, Douglas Hurd's crackdown on legitimate shotgunners....most being sportsmen.

The government even redefined the shotgun, so that it was no longer simply a smoothbore weapon, of defined barrel length of greater than 32" (so not sawn off,) taking 12 gauge cartridges, which may vary from birdshot, to buckshot, to slug.....

Any cartridge of greater size than birdshot was deemed "firearm" ammunition...And also, pump action and automatic shotguns were legally owned upon a shotgun certficate, prior to the changes to the law....The redefinition of such previously legitimate smoothbores, placed them in the firearms category, meaning that they could not be owned by shotgunners and many shotgun supplies businesses went bust overnight, in consequence..

This also completely destroyed the sport of practical shotgun, in 1980s Britain.....It was intended to place pressure on all owners of shotguns, who would not have harmed anyone with their weapons..

Now we could say that the risk is too great to allow private ownership of guns in Britain, even if the car is an equally destructive weapon, that is not restricted to the same degree..

But the real objective of these actions becomes plainer when you contrast the complete distrust and contempt governments, especially in Britain, have for their private gun owners and contrast that with the government's view of the police and military, upon whom they gleefully lavish ever more powerful weapons....So an obvious police state mentality...

If you visit any UK airport now, you will see heavily armed cops on patrol....A few years back, this would simply be unacceptable, in a country who had pride in an unarmed constabulary...So we have a reviled private UK citizen, held in distrust by ever more frenzied governments, often taking rights away following events of this sort....And we have an ever more militarized policeforce, who have the right to kill with impunity, as with the case recently of the riot cop who was let off, after he murdered an innocent man, who was not even protesting..

Or the innocent Brazillian brutally shot at point blank range, by trigger happy police, on the London underground..

So we in Britain have got used to having no such right to bear arms, as that being something that only other nations may enjoy...BUT have also diverted our attention to better things....So, yes it's a bummer and yes, it's government hypocracy and duplicity, but you can live without a gun or guns.....Something Americans should ponder and I really know how they feel, but do advise them to put down their weapons if ever they are invited on board GFL ships....Out of politeness to other beings, rather than out of fear of breaking draconian gun laws.... ;-)

The governments and police will not put down their obsessions with guns and power....But that is an illusion that will leave them stranded...LOL

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