Prometheus ...opinions of

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on June 11, 2012 at 9:34pm

Perhaps you should watch the entire Alien/Predator series.  The predators, who look like reptiles in a way, are the masters of the universe.  They hunt the Xenomorphs for the ultimate test to their hunting skills.  The aliens are bred by the predators for this purpose.  The predators are also represented as the ancient aliens that were here.  The AVP film even shows the pyramids they built on earth and the thralls of human worshippers.

Originally the planet prometheus occurs on was called LV426 and was just a scouted planet and was not supposed to be Zeta2 Reticulii as Mr Scott has said.  They are playing the movie into the popular alien culture and new discoveries made in archeology since the original alien film in the 1970's

Just like in politics moives are made to please public opinion just as much as drive it.

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 11, 2012 at 9:36pm

My post on this from another site......

Originally Posted by Midnite It was an interesting movie. I liked how life-like everything looked. Actual depiction of how the human DNA sequence came into existence? nah.. This movie had 'expect a fake invasion' all over it. What's the Government plotting?

Excellent point, (that I hadn't yet considered) but this could be said about so many sci-fi films... from 50's monster aliens to Battle of LA, Battleship or similar invasion themes that Hollywood (and likely the military) supports to represent all aliens as threatening. 

What's particularly disturbing to me, is how this story appears to twist truth (ancient genetic modifications) to create an ongoing mythology-threat of this sort....

(and even setting it in the future) 

It's only entertainment, yet does shape the public mindset, by creating such a mythology... one that fears the unknown. 

Like do we really need more paranoia ? 

Yes, I've heard 1st hand reports that a small spectrum of aliens HAVE long represented an actual or perceived threat to us...(depending how one views our overall dynamic of interactions....far beyond recognized earth history) As there seems much lost in history. 

The public seems to love being scared however, so one cannot really blame directors for creating such things in whatever form...slasher films, serial killers, and such.

Speilburg was among the first modern directors to represent aliens as benevolent, (ET, Close Encounters) , and even he has folded , and tends to now support the fiction of an invasion scenario.... with Super 8 being the sole recent exception I can recall.. 

(one that is compassionate to other life forms) 

Whitley Streiber claimed he got financial support for HIS depiction of Greys as demonic.....support that vanished when he began to depict them in a more compassionate way. (according to an older interview or article I recall)

Hollywood is very sensitive to public opinion in how it represents ethnic groups, yet our galactic family has no such representation-influence it seems, and continues to be a favorite target for our projected fears. 

I applaud filmmakers who have the courage to buck this trend. And so does the moviegoing public it seems.

ET was the highest grossing film of it's decade.

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on June 11, 2012 at 9:48pm

For a more true to the reality of what space beings would be like it is better to go with sci-fi shows rather than films.  Like as you say most films are 2 hour shockers, specifically desinged to illicit emotional responses from the viewer.  Television shows like the star treks, Babylon5, Andromeda, Lexx(although lexx is pretty dark) and several others paint the universe with a different brush.  One that includes all sorts of differenet races of beings, some bent on destruction and others on unity.

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 11, 2012 at 9:55pm

I DO get this and have seen the series 2x .......it's a totally valid point (the commercial need to "satisfy" the public's taste) and thematically to remain consistent with the "Alien" mythology ...

And from this pov, he has little option  but to continue representing the  universe as a threatening place...

In order to please the fans.

While I'd much prefer a more optimistic take on ET's  (like 2001) 

That's not Ridley's universe ...... 

I'm just curious how members of this site feel about the movie on a whole, 

 Emotionally

Those who aren't  already fans of the series..... or deeply into conspiracy theories.

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on June 11, 2012 at 10:02pm

I havent seen it yet, but I will be.  My cheif concern with prometheus is are they going to honour the series which has developed.  Originally alien was stand alone then they added the queen for pt2, then that the aliens could become whatever they are hosted in with the dog.  Then the genetic mixing with humans spawned the idea for the predalien in avp:r .

So as the predator and alien series' merged they took on a new life the original creators didnt intend or expect.  Although I have hear that the xenomorphs arent in prometheus of very little of them is.

I am excited and also concerned for the series.

As for it being related to reality.  Well so far the tales of our space brethren being here are just as provable as any fiction film.  To think all aliens are either good or bad is a fallcy.  Be prepared that if any come here it could go either way.  To not be prepared for any situation that could arise is just simply foolish I think.

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 11, 2012 at 11:03pm

This should provide answers any question you might have about the movie

http://www.prometheusforum.net/

Well they've obviously been "here" quite a while, in one manner or another.

I've known this since my youth, and had certain contacts.

I don't really look to films or TV series for the truth but only entertainment, and occasionally 

inspiration.

Bashar has discussed reality from one (His) ET perspective , 

and it's apparently very unlike anything movies or TV could ever represent.

Though "Contact" made a pretty decent representation of interdimensional reality, as humans   

might perceive it. 

Just my opinion.

Anyway I wanna discuss the movie itself rather than debate about lifeforms right now.

As so much has been written already by folks with extensive and quite varied contact experience.

thanx for sharing though..... 

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 11, 2012 at 11:06pm

Or rather,,I'd like to hear what members felt about it.

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Permalink Reply by Cleyton on June 12, 2012 at 4:45am

well i watched the movie... i kind liked the movie but its not all true, the movie is all fictional, but it opens up a new way of thinking, doesn't matter what the movie shows, if its fiction, horror or drama, but the movie was all about one thing that were intentionally created to show humans that the human body were created by evolved beings, ETs from another world.. and intentionally gives a question to the humans "why did they leave us and are they coming back?" so movies like that are made to wake up people, to put on their mind a new reality and change matrix.... who watches the movie, doesn't matter what is their religion, of beliefs, they will soon or later start questioning about that matter because now its implanted on their  conscious! 

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 12, 2012 at 7:49am

Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars,,,,

He especially loved that it raised questions and didn't try to answer 'em. To give folks stuff to ponder.

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Permalink Reply by Paladin on June 12, 2012 at 9:40am

Here are a couple vids about the movie and actual facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qSoIzF6a1no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-PMwhMnIGxM

 

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Permalink Reply by Frenzy44 on June 12, 2012 at 1:36pm

The movie was made by the cabal enough said. Dont give them any more info on it. They put lot of effort into it making out we should love our rep / annuaki freaks. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EARTH HUMAITY DEMISE. Lets not forget that.

 

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Permalink Reply by Robby on June 12, 2012 at 7:36pm

Thanx for both your cool links. I'll look closer soon,

BBC review,,,,, delightful to hear a really intelligent-well informed reviewer who does  understands sci-fi films and their history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyxZBuWSXM&feature=related

He doesn't address how their mythologies affect us, but perhaps that's another matter, and one few critics go into these days.

 Film contains brutal scenes, but also raises philosophical questions that few  other sci-fi films do. 

 To combine horror and philosophy seems a bit odd to me... as a writer.

But I'm probably in the minority as far as moviegoers, and fans of sci-fi. 

While I fully agree the mythology represented in this film is a distortion of 

fact, as a long time sci fi fan I appreciate the 

care-craft & art that it represents, and will see it simply for that, 

It's mass entertainment and one should probably keep that in mind...

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