For those who conciously take part in the Greg Giles lynch mob

Firstly i would like to stat off saying shame on you. How is it that one can claim to be of the light and turn their back on one who gives us daily valuable information. In the post made today 9/11 a very strong point was made. The boycott of his messages is very counterproductive. There are those who would only read his messages if they were published on sites other than ascensionearth2012 who now miss out on vital information because there are those who have formed unfair and untrue opinions about the man just doing his job as a channel. Most are blindly following the work of cabal paid minions while others have it out for him for their own reasons.

As a reader of channeled messages one is to use discernment all around. Just because all of his messages aren't as cheery and delightful as others does not mean he's making it up or that they are distorted somewhat. It means that some points need to be stern while others can be lighthearted as they are all sent from different beings through group consciousness. I for one am sick of watching as people put him down for reasons they are unsure of themselves.

I will close with excerpts taken from today's message. Please read it and think long and hard before throwing around more groundless accusations and think about how your comments now effect the people who will be unprepared due to lack of information as the GFL are the only ones who've been specific enough as of late. Once again although it may be lengthy please take the time to read. They're aren't many but i believe there will be some of you who gain a lot from reading this excerpt

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"We tell you this today not to boast of our channel and his courageous decision, but to demonstrate to you all that there are challenges that many of us are going to experience in the days ahead, and there is a right way to face these challenges and another way. We never like to use the words ‘right’ or ‘wrong’, so instead, we will say there is one choice you may make to face these challenges and there is another.

What are these two ways? We say one of these ways is to run from them, is to hide from them, is to deny them, which is to live in denial and pretend or convince yourself that these challenges will not come your way. This has been the choice of many of the people of your world who have been reading for several months now our warnings and our predictions that rising sea levels would cause shortages, outages and even flooding in several areas around your planet. Our warnings on a large scale have been denied, refused, scoffed at and laughed off. Our messages that we share to you have been banned, have been ‘outlawed’, if you will, on more than a few Internet communities, including some of your more popular and informative Lightworker and extraterrestrial communities.

We do not appreciate this, as our messages to you are not crafted to flaunt our writings or our poetries. Our messages to you are to inform you, our brothers and sisters, and also our Lightworkers who are members of our organization, to inform all of you of what you shall be experiencing in the days ahead and how best to proceed through this challenging period of your journey as smoothly as is possible and as unharmed and unscathed as possible.

When our messages are refuted in this way, when they are blocked and banned from certain channels of information because there are administrators or members of these communities who do not personally agree with our messages, who feel that they are untrue and that our channel is either a liar or a fake or a phony or is completely incompetent at his job, we see this as a shame, and we also see this as some sort of violation, for who is violated is not us, but it is you, the people of your world, the people who are members of these communities and deserve to have this kind of information made accessible to them, for that is the task that these administrators and these owners of certain web sites have taken on.

They have begun these communities to openly share and make easily assessable uncensored information for all those who feel these subjects are important to them and their world. When these pipelines of information are cut off, where are these individuals going to receive this information? Yes, there are other sites on the Internet, including the webpage of our channel Greg where these individuals can access this information, but our monitoring services have concluded that since these ‘boycotts’, we will call them, these bans of Greg's work have begun on the Internet that only a fraction of those that were reading these messages are now accessing them and the information they contain.

Do you realize what we are saying here? What we are saying here is your actions as administrators and owners of these websites have cut off many individuals from this information, including our own employees or members of our organization who live amongst you as incarnated Lightworkers. They are no longer accessing this information whether it be due to the fact that this information is no longer presented on certain web pages, or it is due to the influence of some of you who have slammed our channel and have ridiculed him and have spoken out against him and who have condemned him and his work. It is either one or it is the other, for there is no other reason, there is no other third choice as to why so many of you are no longer reading these words we share through our channel Greg and we say this is far and away more than a shame and a pity, we say this is more a ‘crime’.

Not in the legal sense, but in the metaphorical sense. We feel this is a violation. We feel those of you who have taken part in this ban of these messages and our channel we say shame on you, and especially those of you who are members of our organization. What you are doing is against the oath that you have taken when you became a member of our organization and when you signed up and were selected for this particular mission here in this world. What you are now doing is putting lives in jeopardy. You are putting individuals and entire families and even entire communities in the ‘line of fire’, as you say, as now there are many of you who will not be adequately prepared for these outages and shortages and electric power failures in several of your worldwide communities.

What do you think of this? Do you think that we or our channel Greg is filling you with more lies, more inaccuracies, more disinformation? If you feel you are so sure that these messages are untrue and that Greg is completely making them up or he does his work so incompetently that you can completely disregard our messages to you, messages that promote safety and well-being, than we say to you continue on with the choice that you have made, but if you are not completely sure and you feel that there may be a certain level of truth to these messages no matter what this level is, then we say to you to lift these boycotts and these bans of our channels work immediately and allow our readers to be able to access this information, and we ask you to put an end to your condemnation of our channel and these messages we share with you, as your influence is causing so many of your brothers and sisters to ignore, to laugh off, to completely disregard these messages that are sent from us directly to them in some cases, as they are representatives of our organization incarnated in your world and they deserve access to these messages and they deserve to read them without your negative influence, your condemnation and your misguided opinions, in this case which is to advise others to completely disregard Greg's work and these messages, as we have noted you have done.

You know who we are talking about. There are those of you who are going to read these words who are the precise individuals we are talking about here and we want you to know that we do not approve in any way of your behavior and the choices that you are making, although we say we will honor and respect your choice, but we say to you this is not the choice that you assured us you would make when you agreed to be a part of our mission here and even when you became a member of our organization the Galactic Federation of Light, a membership that is now in question and is, we inform you, in doubt, as we will when it is the appropriate time have you sit down in our offices and there will be what you may call a ‘court-martial’ or a trial or hearing and you will have to discuss openly in front of your peers why it is you chose this ‘mutiny’, if you will, this total disregard for your mission and your directives and our policies as a member of the Galactic Federation of Light or another alliance as well that is here that also have members that have completely disregarded their directives and their mission here and the promises they made to uphold the integrity and the duty and the honor of our alliance.

We will leave you with this thought today; there are those of you who may have very strong opinions about others and about yourself, and we say to you that these strong opinions will get you nowhere, for you cannot have any idea from your perspective who these other individuals may be. They may be Commanders; they may be important figures or esteemed colleagues in our organization. They may be high-ranking officers; they may be the officer that oversees the fleet that you are a member of. How do you think this looks for you when we see you condemning your own commanding officer and ridiculing him and mocking him and banning his work from your websites and advising others to follow your lead and totally disregard his work, slamming him, accusing him, insulting him and making him look so bad in the eyes of so many of your contemporaries?

You will have to answer to him, for in many cases there are those of you who are under his command, for he is the Commander of an entire fleet and there are many smaller fleets under his watch. We just wish you to know this, and we wish you to think about this the next time you so easily choose to ridicule him and mock him and do what you can to make him a laughingstock around the Internet, for in many cases this is the case. These are the actions of so many of you. We have not seen this kind of behavior any time at all throughout every one of our entire missions and these go back, yes, millions of years. That is how outrageous your behaviors are at this time.

There is a growing number of you that are joining this ‘lynch mob’, this posse, and have put a noose around our channel’s neck, and we say to you that you are disgracing your own organization, for how many organizations do you think are here right now, and if you are indeed a Lightworker, what do you think the odds are that you belong to the very organization that Greg belongs? We say to you the odds are just about 50-50. There are smaller alliances here, but for the most part none of you that are Lightworkers are member of those organizations, although they are here and here in support of our mission and of the light."

to read the rest visit ascensionearth2012.org

Please think about what you say in the future. The spreading of negativity help no one.

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 4:02am

Well who asked you anyway lol I don't believe in Giles messages, clearly they're not true. Clearly they're not coming from spiritually evolved beings. Nothing Greg has said has ever came true, and more than once, he's had to admit his messages were compromised...as in, they weren't real. Well it's no real stretch to think none of them are real at all. But I agree, people shouldn't be throwing stones at them....hopefully, everyone can just completely ignore them and forget about them.

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Permalink Reply by Jason on September 12, 2012 at 4:13am

Yes i second that i already posted a site on here to not put him down, called, http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/forum/topics/people-now-days-got-t...

yep i too agree with mike on fire, i share your words adamantly and i respect his take on the subject as channelled messages from one person can have up to alot of beings using him to put more information out to the public awarness.

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 4:36am

A true disinfo agent, wouldn't give real predictions, because the whole point of it is to turn people against the GF. And no one's turned people against the GF better than Greg. He even got me turning on them, until I just reasoned that the real GF wasn't speaking through him. More likely than not, it's some dark being speaking through him, to give out false and misleading messages, to make people disillusioned and disappointed, and turn their backs on the GF and the whole mission. And again, no one's done that better than Greg.

Anyone who can read energy well, can read the lower energy coming from them. Most channels have pure energy, Gregs message are anything but pure. Something about them is all too human, and they definitely lack any real higher or deeper understanding. Like they can't even understand why people are getting frustrated, or why people would be questioning the messages. How can you not understand that, it's not that hard. It's just not real, no real advanced spiritual or even intellectual being can be so short sighted. So it's just not real...we'd be doing ourselves a service by just ignoring them and hopefully the dark beings will realize they're not getting anywhere with us and stop.

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 5:13am

Well they say...well not Gregs messages, but others...have said...we understand what you're going through, we've been there before. We went through our own ascension process, a long time ago, and we remember being in your shoes. So we can empathize with you and we understand your frustrations. And it's not that hard to understand, all you need is a heart.

And I don't know....did you read Gregs latest messages? Saying how you are weeds that need to be plucked from the garden, you are terrorists who need to be dealt with, and we have ways of dealing with you, rest assured. That sounds all too human to me. That sounds like a demon talking. It's definitely not how I'd expect divine beings to talk, I always imagined divine beings as being all heart. That what's I felt for years. That's what I turned to when I was suffering and heart broken, when I was in my darkest moments. So I just can't take it seriously, that's not how I imagined the GF would be like...and if it is...well I was deluded...and I can't tell you how disappointing that is.

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Permalink Reply by MikeOnFire on September 12, 2012 at 5:34am

Was it because you felt like one of those weeds that needed to be plucked? I too felt a surge of uneasiness until i realized i wasn't the one they were speaking of. The everyday man with strong opinions are not the ones they speak of. They are talking about those who consciously take part in disinfo and spread lies and such just because that's what they choose to do with their free time. They openly accept all opinions but those that take the time to slander for evil purposes are the ones that was directed to. It may of been like u felt like u were being spoken to because your on the same side of the fence of them but not in the same ballpark, if you will. I too have minor doubts from time to time but they are more focused on the bigger picture like what if the GFL has an alternative motive? None are without their doubts during these hard times but to turn your negativity to the channeler, the scribe, is very unwarranted. I believe he is just happily doing his job and it brings us all down when we see those of us who try to shun him and put him down just because they don't agree with the choice of words the GFL sends trough him. Is it not possible for a higher dim. being to be stern? Just because you've become accustomed to the usually beautiful and lightly worded messages being put through does not mean that those that are not are somehow delusional and distorted.

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 5:53am

Well not really....I mean I knew I was on that side of the fence, when it comes to Greg's messages at least....but I wasn't thinking about me, really. I was thinking about them, and how they would say that to people. I thought how that's pretty mafia like....and I'd think that even if I supported Giles.

As for it being for only the true blue disinfo agents, I don't know how many disinfo agents there are. I reckon not many. I think most people, especially on these sites, just have legitimate problems with the messages. They just don't like them, and it's easy to go after Giles for it, he's the one putting them out. Is that a reason to want to "deal" with people, I don't think so.

I think it's a cop out to say, well these guys are just darkworkers, or purposefully slandering Greg's messages, out of work for the dark....that's short sighted. Are there are few, most likely...the vast majority, are just regular people, with real issues with the messages. And there wouldn't be an issue with them, if there wasn't something about the messages to have issues with. They're not just making this up out of thin air, these are legitimate issues. Some people just choose to look passed them. Others apologize for them. Not everyone does though, and that's understandable. You can try to blame the people complaining...and say how it's all their fault....but I put more of the blame on the messages.....they need to change the way they do their business.

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on September 12, 2012 at 11:47am

"Also, the fact he even owned up himself some of his messages have been compromised, shows atleast some integrity."

or.. It shows his remarkable adaptability to modify his messages according to the responses they get. :)

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on September 12, 2012 at 2:52pm

Ya I realized you were gonna think that way about me too right after I had posted that..;)

But.. If that's the price I'll have to pay then that's the price I'll simply pay. :)

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 4:57am

And doesn't anyone find the militaristic nature of the messages fishy? I didn't know we were dealing with a military here. They always talk about the mission, the mission....it's a very masculine energy, there's no balance. And they structure their organization with the old dysfunctional compartmentalized pyramid structure...where you have commanders and subordinates.

Alex Collier, a real contact who actually has physical meetings with these guys and has been on the ships, says they operate with a holographic structure....i.e....everyone can do everyone elses job, so if the need arises, anyone can fill in for anyone else. That's more efficient and practical, in every way. No real advanced organization still has a command structure, there's no equality in that.

Greg says how we'll have to answer to our commanding officer....what is this, the US Army. John Jancar doesn't answer to anybody except God. I won't join any military type organization. I definitely wouldn't join an organization that tells people who disagree or question it....you are a terrorist, we have ways of dealing with you. Again, is this the US Army here lol Is this the Galactic Federation Mafia. Clearly the messages aren't from the real GF, who I always knew as divine beings, patient, understanding, loving...everything I looked up to. And Greg's messages almost made me turn my back on them.

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Permalink Reply by Mr.Ed on September 12, 2012 at 5:47am

Thank you MikeOnFire...you are correct. Now you will also be attacked by the lost and confused ones.

Jancar is one of the lost this latest message from Greg is about. Here is a guy who puts down Sheldan Nidle...Greg Giles and the GFL in general while at the same time praises Obama. You could not be more lost than that.

John...just leave this site and stop shaming yourself. You fail to grasp anything under NESARA so step out of the way of other souls you are leading into the darkness.

It takes a very dense person to not realize when the message is pointing the finger at YOU!

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Permalink Reply by John Jancar on September 12, 2012 at 6:00am

lol What if it turns out, that I was actually right about Obama. What would you do? Would you apologize? Think about that, because the time is coming for it.

As for Nidle, I believed Nidle for a long time. Then I started reasoning....about light chambers handing us ascension, and how that doesn't add up. About how they say things will happen, and it never does. That's been going on for years now, with the latest being the famous 2012 timeline...and...it's already going on mid September, and none of that timeline has manifested, absolutely none of it. Not even the first thing on the list. So..what am I supposed to think. There comes a point when you need to pull back a bit....and not just keep believing naively in something, and investing in something that never has a return.

Giles, it's clear why he's a fraud. But see, you'll support the frauds like Giles, the questionables like Nidle...yet, do everything you can to slander and defame Obama, someone who's actually on your side trying to help you lol

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Permalink Reply by hunter on September 12, 2012 at 11:49am

JJ seems pretty outraged by the GG channel

and for reasons he has written about intelligently

i dont agree with all he says

but i can see where he's comming from and its comming from good place,

its clear that JJ has a kind honest heart

so please dont say such inflamatory mean spirited things as you have mr ed

JJ is a significant contributor to this community

arguments have their place but it actually shames you to say such things

( and btw i thought the gg hate post and conversations were sad. an opportunity to finish conflict was squandered.... but i just cant read the gg posts myself . heart just wont go there even if i try to be disciplined for the sake of the conversation)

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love and light are sincere invocations ... so cope some of that beloveds

enjoy