Firstly i would like to stat off saying shame on you. How is it that one can claim to be of the light and turn their back on one who gives us daily valuable information. In the post made today 9/11 a very strong point was made. The boycott of his messages is very counterproductive. There are those who would only read his messages if they were published on sites other than ascensionearth2012 who now miss out on vital information because there are those who have formed unfair and untrue opinions about the man just doing his job as a channel. Most are blindly following the work of cabal paid minions while others have it out for him for their own reasons.
As a reader of channeled messages one is to use discernment all around. Just because all of his messages aren't as cheery and delightful as others does not mean he's making it up or that they are distorted somewhat. It means that some points need to be stern while others can be lighthearted as they are all sent from different beings through group consciousness. I for one am sick of watching as people put him down for reasons they are unsure of themselves.
I will close with excerpts taken from today's message. Please read it and think long and hard before throwing around more groundless accusations and think about how your comments now effect the people who will be unprepared due to lack of information as the GFL are the only ones who've been specific enough as of late. Once again although it may be lengthy please take the time to read. They're aren't many but i believe there will be some of you who gain a lot from reading this excerpt
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There is a growing number of you that are joining this ‘lynch mob’, this posse, and have put a noose around our channel’s neck, and we say to you that you are disgracing your own organization, for how many organizations do you think are here right now, and if you are indeed a Lightworker, what do you think the odds are that you belong to the very organization that Greg belongs? We say to you the odds are just about 50-50. There are smaller alliances here, but for the most part none of you that are Lightworkers are member of those organizations, although they are here and here in support of our mission and of the light."
to read the rest visit ascensionearth2012.org
Please think about what you say in the future. The spreading of negativity help no one.
Well who asked you anyway lol I don't believe in Giles messages, clearly they're not true. Clearly they're not coming from spiritually evolved beings. Nothing Greg has said has ever came true, and more than once, he's had to admit his messages were compromised...as in, they weren't real. Well it's no real stretch to think none of them are real at all. But I agree, people shouldn't be throwing stones at them....hopefully, everyone can just completely ignore them and forget about them.
Yes i second that i already posted a site on here to not put him down, called, http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/forum/topics/people-now-days-got-t...
yep i too agree with mike on fire, i share your words adamantly and i respect his take on the subject as channelled messages from one person can have up to alot of beings using him to put more information out to the public awarness.
A true disinfo agent, wouldn't give real predictions, because the whole point of it is to turn people against the GF. And no one's turned people against the GF better than Greg. He even got me turning on them, until I just reasoned that the real GF wasn't speaking through him. More likely than not, it's some dark being speaking through him, to give out false and misleading messages, to make people disillusioned and disappointed, and turn their backs on the GF and the whole mission. And again, no one's done that better than Greg.
Anyone who can read energy well, can read the lower energy coming from them. Most channels have pure energy, Gregs message are anything but pure. Something about them is all too human, and they definitely lack any real higher or deeper understanding. Like they can't even understand why people are getting frustrated, or why people would be questioning the messages. How can you not understand that, it's not that hard. It's just not real, no real advanced spiritual or even intellectual being can be so short sighted. So it's just not real...we'd be doing ourselves a service by just ignoring them and hopefully the dark beings will realize they're not getting anywhere with us and stop.
Well they say...well not Gregs messages, but others...have said...we understand what you're going through, we've been there before. We went through our own ascension process, a long time ago, and we remember being in your shoes. So we can empathize with you and we understand your frustrations. And it's not that hard to understand, all you need is a heart.
And I don't know....did you read Gregs latest messages? Saying how you are weeds that need to be plucked from the garden, you are terrorists who need to be dealt with, and we have ways of dealing with you, rest assured. That sounds all too human to me. That sounds like a demon talking. It's definitely not how I'd expect divine beings to talk, I always imagined divine beings as being all heart. That what's I felt for years. That's what I turned to when I was suffering and heart broken, when I was in my darkest moments. So I just can't take it seriously, that's not how I imagined the GF would be like...and if it is...well I was deluded...and I can't tell you how disappointing that is.
Was it because you felt like one of those weeds that needed to be plucked? I too felt a surge of uneasiness until i realized i wasn't the one they were speaking of. The everyday man with strong opinions are not the ones they speak of. They are talking about those who consciously take part in disinfo and spread lies and such just because that's what they choose to do with their free time. They openly accept all opinions but those that take the time to slander for evil purposes are the ones that was directed to. It may of been like u felt like u were being spoken to because your on the same side of the fence of them but not in the same ballpark, if you will. I too have minor doubts from time to time but they are more focused on the bigger picture like what if the GFL has an alternative motive? None are without their doubts during these hard times but to turn your negativity to the channeler, the scribe, is very unwarranted. I believe he is just happily doing his job and it brings us all down when we see those of us who try to shun him and put him down just because they don't agree with the choice of words the GFL sends trough him. Is it not possible for a higher dim. being to be stern? Just because you've become accustomed to the usually beautiful and lightly worded messages being put through does not mean that those that are not are somehow delusional and distorted.
Well not really....I mean I knew I was on that side of the fence, when it comes to Greg's messages at least....but I wasn't thinking about me, really. I was thinking about them, and how they would say that to people. I thought how that's pretty mafia like....and I'd think that even if I supported Giles.
As for it being for only the true blue disinfo agents, I don't know how many disinfo agents there are. I reckon not many. I think most people, especially on these sites, just have legitimate problems with the messages. They just don't like them, and it's easy to go after Giles for it, he's the one putting them out. Is that a reason to want to "deal" with people, I don't think so.
I think it's a cop out to say, well these guys are just darkworkers, or purposefully slandering Greg's messages, out of work for the dark....that's short sighted. Are there are few, most likely...the vast majority, are just regular people, with real issues with the messages. And there wouldn't be an issue with them, if there wasn't something about the messages to have issues with. They're not just making this up out of thin air, these are legitimate issues. Some people just choose to look passed them. Others apologize for them. Not everyone does though, and that's understandable. You can try to blame the people complaining...and say how it's all their fault....but I put more of the blame on the messages.....they need to change the way they do their business.
"Also, the fact he even owned up himself some of his messages have been compromised, shows atleast some integrity."
or.. It shows his remarkable adaptability to modify his messages according to the responses they get. :)
Ya I realized you were gonna think that way about me too right after I had posted that..;)
But.. If that's the price I'll have to pay then that's the price I'll simply pay. :)
And doesn't anyone find the militaristic nature of the messages fishy? I didn't know we were dealing with a military here. They always talk about the mission, the mission....it's a very masculine energy, there's no balance. And they structure their organization with the old dysfunctional compartmentalized pyramid structure...where you have commanders and subordinates.
Alex Collier, a real contact who actually has physical meetings with these guys and has been on the ships, says they operate with a holographic structure....i.e....everyone can do everyone elses job, so if the need arises, anyone can fill in for anyone else. That's more efficient and practical, in every way. No real advanced organization still has a command structure, there's no equality in that.
Greg says how we'll have to answer to our commanding officer....what is this, the US Army. John Jancar doesn't answer to anybody except God. I won't join any military type organization. I definitely wouldn't join an organization that tells people who disagree or question it....you are a terrorist, we have ways of dealing with you. Again, is this the US Army here lol Is this the Galactic Federation Mafia. Clearly the messages aren't from the real GF, who I always knew as divine beings, patient, understanding, loving...everything I looked up to. And Greg's messages almost made me turn my back on them.
Thank you MikeOnFire...you are correct. Now you will also be attacked by the lost and confused ones.
Jancar is one of the lost this latest message from Greg is about. Here is a guy who puts down Sheldan Nidle...Greg Giles and the GFL in general while at the same time praises Obama. You could not be more lost than that.
John...just leave this site and stop shaming yourself. You fail to grasp anything under NESARA so step out of the way of other souls you are leading into the darkness.
It takes a very dense person to not realize when the message is pointing the finger at YOU!
lol What if it turns out, that I was actually right about Obama. What would you do? Would you apologize? Think about that, because the time is coming for it.
As for Nidle, I believed Nidle for a long time. Then I started reasoning....about light chambers handing us ascension, and how that doesn't add up. About how they say things will happen, and it never does. That's been going on for years now, with the latest being the famous 2012 timeline...and...it's already going on mid September, and none of that timeline has manifested, absolutely none of it. Not even the first thing on the list. So..what am I supposed to think. There comes a point when you need to pull back a bit....and not just keep believing naively in something, and investing in something that never has a return.
Giles, it's clear why he's a fraud. But see, you'll support the frauds like Giles, the questionables like Nidle...yet, do everything you can to slander and defame Obama, someone who's actually on your side trying to help you lol
JJ seems pretty outraged by the GG channel
and for reasons he has written about intelligently
i dont agree with all he says
but i can see where he's comming from and its comming from good place,
its clear that JJ has a kind honest heart
so please dont say such inflamatory mean spirited things as you have mr ed
JJ is a significant contributor to this community
arguments have their place but it actually shames you to say such things
( and btw i thought the gg hate post and conversations were sad. an opportunity to finish conflict was squandered.... but i just cant read the gg posts myself . heart just wont go there even if i try to be disciplined for the sake of the conversation)
love and light are sincere invocations ... so cope some of that beloveds