A word on female aggression

In a world of political correctness and gender considerations it has become difficult for a male to touch certain subjects. I have followed feminism for many years because I am interested in getting rid of male supremacy. The following lines are written with regard to many observations I made in recent years, and since I know the subject could push certain bottons I ask for gentle consideration. I believe the subject has also a lot to do with spiritual growth because it touches modes of perception and behaviour.

I also know that the subject needs a deeper and more detailed research. This is only a little summery.

Noli me tangere! (Don`t touch me!)

I observe many things around me, and some have meaning to me. I have spoken many times also with females about this: in Germany - and I assume it is similar in many western countries - the female generation under 40 has obviously a problem with aggression.

I see ladies with kids running through the streets with no sense of consideration. Any person saying a word to the kid is treated as enemy.

A special case is public traffic. In certain cases it is difficult driving to a road, because other drivers won`t let you in. Men are more gentle to stop letting the driver in. They have found out that females are much less ready to stop - 1 out of 12.

And while men tend to walk longer ways with their kids bringing them to school, females come with their cars right in front of the school even if the road is crowded and start not seldem fighting over a parking lot.

Frustrated men told me from the female aggression they encoutered at the weekend dance floors. No question that many men are somewhat assholish in trying to speak with woman, but many experience no recognition, no eyes contact, no kind word, no fluent conversation but lots of complaints on "bad boys". Many men have indeed difficulties and fears exposeing themselves as men being soft. They experience the old paradigma still working - women complain about "macho assholes" but secretly love to meet one. This is disturbing.

The Princess and the Pea

What happened to those females under 40? What difficulties they had?

Actually their parents raised them as their little princes and princesses avoiding to criticize them too much. And they have failed teaching them culturized behaviour. The reasons are manyfold and depend partly from educational paradigms which used to be public.

This generation was born into a time where it became politically incorrect to critisize females. Feminism had worked with the model of "females being victims". And this horse once being saddled served as vehicle to avoid criticism of females.

Police told me that 50% of contemporary home violence comes from females, and nobody is talking about that publicly. Males who experience violent females have no courage to go to police. They feel as wimps and losers. I know a guy whose wife was often beating him up, and it took years before he dared to speak.

Lost Equilibrium

Both, males and females, undergo difficult times in perceiving managable roles, and the gender debate made it not much easier.

I remember around 1991. There was a big meeting of over a thousand women for a congress. A famous feminist researcher - a female professor - gave a speech and asked then for discussion.

I had a question and raised my hand. She asked me to go to the micro in front of 1000 women and a couple men. I was the first one with a question.

Then the hell break loose. The ladies started yelling at me and I heard cries like "men out of here". This was the time the female professor came close to me laying her arm around me and asked for silence. Then she asked if they had nothing understood. Feminism, she said, is a mindful thing. It would always come to the point finding peace with males on a new level. Why are you yelling at this man, she said. And it became silent, and I went away wondering...

Males have difficulties finding a new role as men, and females have similar difficulties. We will not save the problem in here. But both have lost equilibrium.

The professor I mentioned above was a very lovely lady, I loved her very much. Her name was Dorothee Soelle. You may google for her.

She said that we must support each other to find our new roles as males and females. Males must stop considering themselves as head, and females must stop considering themselves as victim and weak barby doll. We must start a new conversation without aggression and tooo much demands. Soelle said, the ground of creation is love besides all liberation and fights and misunderstandings.

Still Being in the Hot Seat

What I want to say now I do not mean offensive, and I have no intention to harm anybody neither.

I believe that there was a stong feminist movement in the US, and most people had resentments because of their christian belief systems.

US americans had many resentments against many thinking systems. Only a few knew Phyllis Trible or Angela Davis or Elisabeth Moltmann-Wendel. A few only have read Susan Sontag. And many didn`t ever read Noam Chomsky, to name a couple wonderful thinker.

The results are unbelievable. In 1999 I worked in Erie/Pa for an educational program. They had a teenager pregnancy rate of 14%!

The Lady Gaga Syndrome

I will not go deeper in this but point to a final thing. Since advertisement discovered female sexuality as seducting tool, the case has now come to the climax. Lady Gaga is presenting a new image of females - the image of a cool, nice looking but independent (she said, that she has no sex before a concert, because it would steal energy through her vagina) and men killing (Gagag is often killing the wimpy men in her vids) entity. It is no female in the old sense, but a cold and biting creature. Is there any thought on what impression this might have on men?

The Wimpy Man or Men As Side Effects of Creation

The contemporary German (and I assume the Western) man is either trying to play in a league satisfying a woman in order to get her in the bed or he celebrates a withdrawal in such kind that he cares for traditional values - diligence, reliability and a bit naivety. And unfortunately this kind of man finds only attention on the second look.

The service to the grown up princess finds it`s expression in unbelievable ways. A man told me from his crush he described as "absolutely divine". When he came to her for his first night he got deeply disturbed. Before allowing the love game she gave him a long lecture on female orgasms and how he should act. You can imagine what happened. He was so deeply impressed that nothing happened. She left him because she was convinced he was a dead loss in bed.

I`ll leave it this way now. I post this in a spiritual forum in order to show some backrounds making it difficult to have an almost easygoing communication. Man and woman are in a deep process of transformation and are often unable to understand each other, often also not willing. This has many reasons. I think getting aware of this might help finding first steps of understanding.

I ask again for gentle consideration...

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Permalink Reply by Feather Winger on May 26, 2012 at 6:26pm

T.....many people both men and women missed the point about womens liberation.......they thought it was about women being the same as men......which is a bit like salt trying to be pepper...it doesn't work.......... In reality it is about both men and women enjoying and respecting the differences........and seeing the value and worth of the feminine qualities of intuition, gentlenss, nurturing....as well as the heroic female quality where the mother would risk her life to defend her family.
Of course it is easy to see how people could get confused after hundreds of years of patriarchy....
But, at the end of the day, it is about balancing both the inner male and female that is within each of us......lucky for us the ascension energies do this. As we do this work within us,....so it will be in the world, too.

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Permalink Reply by tertiusgaudens on May 26, 2012 at 7:15pm

I agree, feather, I totally agree.

I wish everybody would read Clarissa Estes, Women who run with the wolves.

But I fear this will not happen.

Maybe the anger of many younger women is the result of oppressed liberation also in the mind.

But genarally I am also clueless. I experience those weekend ladies in a similar manner - distanced, cool, really very often aggressive and only open to her circle. Ithas become very seldom finding an open smile and easy conversation...

No, I`m not complaining. A similar structure we find in here, AC. I wanted to remind the phenomenon in order to get aware. It is a real problem within the last - maybe 20 years, and it is difficult.

Ascension energies do this? Simply woooop - and it`s gone? No. I fear it ain`t work this way. It needs awareness, attention, consideration. We are not saved from thinking. Inspiration has a nice sister - transpiration which no deo spray of the world can prevent...

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Permalink Reply by Feather Winger on May 27, 2012 at 9:50am

T.......I think the general level of anger agression and violence has risen in the world these days....but, also I see an increase in solidarity.....eg. the demonstrations...and other places

I got all my awareness from pain and depression.......however, I did have a woooop moment when I began to see the perfection of the world and the intelligence of the energies.........so, I never underestimate the power of Grace...!!!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on May 26, 2012 at 6:56pm

Since the roles of men and women have been abandoned I see no surprises that men cannot find their place and women are being too aggressive.

Men are the protectors and hunters, women are the nuturers and gatherers. Women arent supposed be doing the men's roles and also men arent supposed to be doing the womens roles. There is nothing to say we CANNOT do the other sex's role, It goes against our nature to do FORCE the other role on people.

Wome and road rage and poor driving is because they arent supposed to "travel" their rols is to tend and gather and teach the youth at the base. The men go and travel and hunt and trade and come back.

Look around nature and see who does what for the most part. Penguins for example, people will say well the women travel and the men guarg the chicks. Yeah the men stay in the coldest darkest part with no food for months saving a meal in their bellies for when it hatches, the females DO travel in this case to avoid the hardest task and to remain healthy and gather extra food for when they return. The roles are still the same, the males protect the females gather.

The problems are arising because we are forcing people through PCness to go against their nature. Before women's lib there was only unemployment issues if there was a MAJOR economic crash. Since libertaion the women want/have to work. This doubles the amount of workers but no jobs are doubled.

Women's lib has caused serious problems which didn't address the REAL problem that was the originator of the movement. Women should be treated fairly and not beaten and not silenced, this doesnt mean that we need to step aside and let them do all the men stuff and we do all the women stuff. Nature didn't set it up that way.

My granddaughter is extremely angry with the women who started women's liberation. She just wanted to get married and raise a family, now she has to go to college/university to get a degree and buy a home because western thinking encourages families to split apart as soon as possible. Then MAYBE if she is done all that and done paying off her schooling and any other debts her and her husband have, MAYBE they will be well off enough to raise a child financially secure. AND she WILL have to work too, not just raising a family, no no, she will have to work 40 hours a week too while her children are forced into indoctrination prisons.

YAY for people taking a good idea and ruining it and taking it too far.

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on May 26, 2012 at 7:37pm

Exactly, womens lib was supposed to just be "hey we can do your jobs too if we wanna" but has turned into women doing career AND raising still, cause let's face it men still do not do much raising as a whole. We are getting better, we enjoy giving women pleasure now and will at least change diapers and hold kids now. exaggerating of course hehe. Seriously though it has gone too far and we have lost sight of what we inherantly ARE as Men and Women.

When women werent in the workforce the way they are now, there was jobs a plenty and because the work was employee strong with less workers than jobs, it leave the workers to demand better treatment. Right now companies can walk all over ALL of us and no one benefits but them raking in billions in PROFIT each quarter, 3MONTHS. Yeesh it is sick. So ladies stay at home make your men work, let us take back control of the economy and rid it of corruption and greed.

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Permalink Reply by tertiusgaudens on May 26, 2012 at 7:53pm

It is still a hot topic.

Since women`s lib is still a case in intellectual circles, some results may have reached the public, but generally it has not settled in the minds of the mass, and this may sound very sad.

All that talking about women`s lib has prevented the public mind from the necessity of male`s liberation too. Feminism was only a beginning of a process starting 100 years ago, and I fear it has yielded now in a dead end street...

To be honest - whenI think this contemporary anger generation will have positions in society in 20 years when we are old thus having a need for care - I could really puke...

I hope so badly that the shit house will not make it 20 more years...

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Permalink Reply by Achilles on May 27, 2012 at 2:01am

One, you raise some valid points, but I disagree with you in some respects.

The idea that men deciding to nurture and women deciding to hunt and gather means that they're going against their nature; you're advocating a limited paradigm, and saying that one sex is MEANT to do this, the other is MEANT to do that. It's too broad; everyone is different. I would love to have children one day, but if their mother has ambition and wants to pursue a career, that's no bad thing. I have no problem being the nurturer, so to speak.

Your granddaughter doesn't HAVE to do anything she doesn't want to do. No-one's holding a gun to her head; if she wants to get married and have kids and look after them, there's no physical impediment. You can't just say "society says she has to". She doesn't. No-one HAS to do what everyone expects them to do. It just takes courage to step outside the box and do your own thing.

I do agree that feminism has caused the scales to swing the other way in some regards. For instance, it is now acceptable for advertising to portray men as useless louts, while women save the day; if an advertisement painted men as superior to weak-minded women, there would be an uproar (and rightly so). This double standard is, unfortunately, all too common.

Men and women are equal; GENERALLY speaking, women are more emotionally aware and vulnerable than men, and, GENERALLY speaking, men are physically stronger and far less likely to have PMS. But that's just it - these are generalisations, and there are always exceptions to the perceived rule. The trick is in striking a balance, acknowledging INDIVIDUAL strengths and weaknesses, and working together to achieve something as close to harmony as possible. Sweeping judgments get us nowhere.

Love and light

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Permalink Reply by 3smn7ct05z5dx on May 27, 2012 at 7:11am

Take the time to ACTUALLY read what people say, in your first paragraph you show that you didn't take the time to read what I said. I said that women CAN do whatever they want. It simply goes against our nature to switch roles. Liberation is not about domination.

Men and Women are NOT equal. If they were men and women would comepte in physical events equally. Men and women have different centre of gravity. Men and women are not equal in just as many ways as they ARE equal.

Good day sir. You can disagree all you like, next time try reading what the other people say before you go adding your own personal implications to the words that others write.

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Permalink Reply by Star Flower on May 29, 2012 at 7:05am

I agree with you Achilles. However, I think that American women are more likely than other women to expect/demand preferential treatment. Too many appear to believe that it is their right to be pampered. There are some european women like this also, but not nearly as many, IMHO. I don't wish to speak in generalities, and I can only speak as a 60-something female who has lived in three countries, but that is how I see it. Having said all this, I find that most women in all countries mature out of their narcissistic tendencies by about age 40 or after the second child, whichever comes first. Ditto, men.

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on May 26, 2012 at 8:34pm

One thing is for sure, today's zombyfied society comes in many shapes.

I always considered my self in touch with my feminine side and had, have many wonderful female friends. I, guess, I feel very comfy around them even if I disagree with them and their behaviour. My own sister went to a war as soldier, never understood that as to why. I see girls doing things that do not make sense yet males do exact same.

Some of us see things in different perspective .

I try to be example for those around, regardless of their gender............................

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Permalink Reply by tertiusgaudens on May 26, 2012 at 8:49pm

Assiya, this is also my approach...

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Permalink Reply by Assiya on May 29, 2012 at 4:57am

I just visited , today, a long time ago friend who is married to my old girl~friend. I had so much fun visiting them, we had lunch, glass of wine, some old time memories and I care less if I disagree with their life style.......................